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  • #16
    catalytic converter light and EPC light (solid) - advice please

    Originally posted by Tigga1 View Post
    Well, they actually said a complete new engine...
    Also, when I spoke to mechanic last week, he indicated that the first car (Golf TSI) they replaced pistons, on the second Golf they replaced whole engine, took a week from order....so maybe VW is taking the safer option...i for one would rather have a new engine than replacement parts.
    Ok well I'm sure it varies from dealer to dealer, but I know most people on this forum who've got their engines 'replaced' due to oil consumption have actually ended up with rebuilt engines with the same engine number.
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    • #17
      ok, thanks, will probably ask dealer/VW for something in writing...what do you think?
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      • #18
        catalytic converter light and EPC light (solid) - advice please

        Originally posted by Tigga1 View Post
        ok, thanks, will probably ask dealer/VW for something in writing...what do you think?
        I'd ask the dealer seeming they're the ones doing the work.
        Alex Aescht

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        • #19
          catalytic converter light and EPC light (solid) - advice please

          Fair chance Tigga1 that all they will do as Alex pointed out is replace certain parts but its not just pistons, you will end up with a new bottom end. They will retain the head etc and probably just give it a good clean to get rid of the carbon build up.

          Interesting that a piston has been torched, there has always been suspicions around the safety of the factory ecu program and how the fuel delivery changes throughout the rev range on these motors...
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          • #20
            So how does one provide proof of fuel quality?!?! Do I have to keep all my bloody receipts??

            Total BS...
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            • #21
              I guess they will be able to see. Lower octane fuel will ping (pre detonate) in these high compression engines. If they take the head off and see every piston with little pits, scorching and what not then they could accuse the fuel. If its only 1 piston then its something else like the injector injecting at the wrong time or something causing pre detonation

              I would have thought though in this day and age that with all the anti knock sensors they could pretty much eliminate pre detonation by retarding the ignition to the point where the engine pretty much stops (or deactivate the faulty cylinder)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by RoknRob View Post
                So how does one provide proof of fuel quality?!?! Do I have to keep all my bloody receipts??
                My car is on a novated lease with two fuel cards (BP & Shell), although I mainly only use BP. The statements will bear out the actual fuel used.

                As it was, I had a couple of dockets in the car...
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Tigga1 View Post
                  My car is on a novated lease with two fuel cards (BP & Shell), although I mainly only use BP. The statements will bear out the actual fuel used.

                  As it was, I had a couple of dockets in the car...
                  Lucky you have it on a novated lease... In my case, if I were asked to provide proof, it wouldn't be easy! I always have a couple of dockets, but that doesn't prove you consistently use the stuff.

                  It's good they accepted your couple of dockets. Nevertheless, this is a bit worrying.

                  But I agree, they should be able to tell WITHOUT your proof, as nomadx38 points out.
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                  • #24
                    went to dealership to get some stuff out of the car, ended up speaking to mechanic who is looking after the car...
                    definitely a whole new engine...
                    seemed to know his stuff, was extrememly frustrated at VW tech lack of responsiveness and difficulty in communicating the obvious.
                    anyway, loan Golf TSI (same engine) is nice to drive, except I have to pay for the fuel now...

                    cheers
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                    Tiguan 189TSI

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                    • #25
                      catalytic converter light and EPC light (solid) - advice please

                      Originally posted by Tigga1 View Post
                      went to dealership to get some stuff out of the car, ended up speaking to mechanic who is looking after the car...
                      definitely a whole new engine...
                      seemed to know his stuff, was extrememly frustrated at VW tech lack of responsiveness and difficulty in communicating the obvious.
                      anyway, loan Golf TSI (same engine) is nice to drive, except I have to pay for the fuel now...

                      cheers
                      That's much better than just being rebuilt.
                      Hopefully the new engine works properly
                      Alex Aescht

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                      • #26
                        Tigga1, sounds similar to what happened to our friend DETROITCANDY. I believe he copped similar symptoms as yourself, expect they managed to solve the issue before the engine caused too much damage.. or so they think.

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                        • #27
                          got a call from VW assist on Tuesday last week to say the 'part' was being fitted, and that the car may have been ready by end of last week. Guess fitting 'the part' took a bit longer than expected...(-:
                          So I expect to pick it up sometime this week.

                          Is there anything I should be looking out for after the major heart surgery...?

                          cheers
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                          Tiguan 189TSI

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                          • #28
                            catalytic converter light and EPC light (solid) - advice please

                            Originally posted by fastlane View Post
                            Tigga1, sounds similar to what happened to our friend DETROITCANDY. I believe he copped similar symptoms as yourself, expect they managed to solve the issue before the engine caused too much damage.. or so they think.
                            Yeah, stretched timing chain after less than 10,000kms from memory? On a MY13 no less too!

                            Rattle and new noises because that could lend to something being put back incorrectly but in all honesty, there shouldn't be any issues from the installation.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by gavs View Post
                              Rattle and new noises because that could lend to something being put back incorrectly but in all honesty, there shouldn't be any issues from the installation.
                              thanks gave, just what i was hoping to hear...(-:
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Tigga1 View Post
                                Is there anything I should be looking out for after the major heart surgery...?
                                Tigga1,
                                How is the new engine holding up? I am hoping for a new engine for my GTI... well at the moment, waiting for any form of communication.

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