APR Mods

[BLN355]

For all the guys who get a tune done first, whats the reasoning? I've always done things the other way getting all the hardware installed then tuning last to bring all the mods together. Saves money too not having to get retuned after every mod

[Banana2]

Thanks for responding. Can you please clarify where I can find your car on the HP website? They don't appear to have a section that shows clients cars.

I'd like to get your comments on the performance gains made by the tune specifically. Did you get the mods done one at a time and test the outcome, or did you get them all done at once? Did you get the car dyno'd before and after to verify the changes/improvements??
Any feedback you can provide me about how your car performs with the mods would be appreciated. Is there anything you're not happy about?

Thanks

No worries.

My car's photo is not on the website. The graphs of the Dynos are.

Here: APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles.

And here: APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles.

Yes, I had it all done at once, but as you can see, the results were looked at individually. Subjectively, however, I can't comment on what the CAI or Intercooler or Tune feels like alone.

What I can comment on is what the combo feels like. And it is definitely an improvement on stock, as far as I'm concerned.

You lose nothing in driveability - in fact, I think it is better. Before the tune, I felt like the engine was lugging a bit, unless I put the pedal down hard. Not now. In other words, it is a smoother take off than before, during day to day driving.

The car has developed a bit of a blurp, not as pronounced as the Golf's, but there nonetheless.

It doesn't take long to get used to driving at less throttle. In fact, now, when I put it in stock mode, the car feels downright sluggish...

You lose nothing in fuel economy. Not statistically significant, but before I got 6.8l/100km, now 6.7.

I love that the Intercooler requires no cuts.

(And, I've said it before, the CAI is a work of art).

Downsides:
1. For a quick take off, you can't just jam the pedal to the floor anymore - the throttle needs to be played, or you lose traction.
2. How reliable is the stock car? There are a few known problems (oil, clutch slippage, etc) that may lead to warranty work. While the mods shouldn't affect the warranty where the mods have not contributed to the problem, there may be a bit of explaining to do. It may make your life more difficult. On the other hand, James and Guy are very professional and I would trust them to give the best advice should the situation arise. By the way, my oil consumption dropped after the mods - coincidence? Maybe. I was around the 6000km mark...

Anything else?

[polo]

Thanks Banana2 - exactly what I was looking for - so big thumbs up. If the sum of the parts and tune make the drive more involving without hurting fuel economy or making you mash the pedal to get something out of it then win/win!

Got the call from Barloworld today - picking the car up Thursday

Any recommendations on APR workshop for south-east burbs in Melbourne?

[Transporter]

Moderator or not, the fact that you took the time to write that when it wasn't necessary illustrates in part what Gavs is speaking about.

Afterall, isn't asking questions and sharing knowledge and similar interests the reason why we all come to these forums?

Many of us on the 6R forum are relatively new to the VW scene and aren't as knowledgeable as the veterans.

Well, after all the OP didn't say that he'd already contacted the APR and it's only logical thing to me to get the information from the reliable source. The way he asked, didn't indicate that and I only tried to help.
I will leave you to it then.

[Banana2]

I forgot to mention the best part!
(well for me, anyway!)

I have a couple of mates with stock Golf GTIs who are still scratching their heads about how I can pull away from them in a car that is supposed to have an identical acceleration time!

They each think their car has a problem!

[polo]

Gold! No need to advertise the mods, what they don't know won't hurt them

I forgot to mention the best part!
(well for me, anyway!)

I have a couple of mates with stock Golf GTIs who are still scratching their heads about how I can pull away from them in a car that is supposed to have an identical acceleration time!

They each think their car has a problem!

[Savant]

No worries.

My car's photo is not on the website. The graphs of the Dynos are.

Here: APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles.

And here: APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles.

Yes, I had it all done at once, but as you can see, the results were looked at individually. Subjectively, however, I can't comment on what the CAI or Intercooler or Tune feels like alone.

What I can comment on is what the combo feels like. And it is definitely an improvement on stock, as far as I'm concerned.

You lose nothing in driveability - in fact, I think it is better. Before the tune, I felt like the engine was lugging a bit, unless I put the pedal down hard. Not now. In other words, it is a smoother take off than before, during day to day driving.

The car has developed a bit of a blurp, not as pronounced as the Golf's, but there nonetheless.

It doesn't take long to get used to driving at less throttle. In fact, now, when I put it in stock mode, the car feels downright sluggish...

You lose nothing in fuel economy. Not statistically significant, but before I got 6.8l/100km, now 6.7.

I love that the Intercooler requires no cuts.

(And, I've said it before, the CAI is a work of art).

Downsides:
1. For a quick take off, you can't just jam the pedal to the floor anymore - the throttle needs to be played, or you lose traction.
2. How reliable is the stock car? There are a few known problems (oil, clutch slippage, etc) that may lead to warranty work. While the mods shouldn't affect the warranty where the mods have not contributed to the problem, there may be a bit of explaining to do. It may make your life more difficult. On the other hand, James and Guy are very professional and I would trust them to give the best advice should the situation arise. By the way, my oil consumption dropped after the mods - coincidence? Maybe. I was around the 6000km mark...

Anything else?

Thanks for your response. Greatly appreciated.
I think I'll pay a visit to DNA.

[gavs]

Thanks Banana2 - exactly what I was looking for - so big thumbs up. If the sum of the parts and tune make the drive more involving without hurting fuel economy or making you mash the pedal to get something out of it then win/win!

Got the call from Barloworld today - picking the car up Thursday

Any recommendations on APR workshop for south-east burbs in Melbourne?

There is only one and most of us who have dealt with that place, wouldn't recommend it

[polo]

There is only one and most of us who have dealt with that place, wouldn't recommend it

Roger that! Do I make the tracks towards Airport West or Burwood?

[gavs]

Airport west

[Preen59]

For all the guys who get a tune done first, whats the reasoning? I've always done things the other way getting all the hardware installed then tuning last to bring all the mods together. Saves money too not having to get retuned after every mod

A tune is one of the best bang-for-buck mods you'll make. Much like the OEM tune, the program will adapt with your mods (to a certain extent). It's not like tuning your carbies and then changing your cams.

[Ryan_R]

Also worth noting that if you buy APR Stage 1 and then later on install Stage 2+ hardware, the subsequent APR software tunes are free. Ask the dealers for details, etc.

[Savant]

There is only one and most of us who have dealt with that place, wouldn't recommend it

Can you please clarify?

[gavs]

Because its not on topic, sorry but no (if you want more details, send a PM) and we are getting off topic a bit guys. If the OP is satisfied with the responses I will close this thread. If any further info regarding tuning is wanted, please refer to the specific tuning section of the forum.