FT86/BRZ vs Polo GTI 6R

[Acko1991]

I am keen to see what the subaru looks like. I hope the interior is better.

[gavs]

Don't expect much difference acko, aside from the badge your going to be hard pressed to tell the difference. Take a look at carsguide.com.au and see if you can tell the difference...

[DoggieHowser]

Check out topgear Australia's 14 things about the 86.

http://www.topgear.com/au/photos/14-little-86-things

It may not be as upmarket as a GTI but I find the plastics usually last longer than rubberized parts. Plus I love the center aligned tachometer. It's like a prerequisite to be considered a true drivers/sports orientated car

[Lock & Load]

The Subaru BRZ 86 has a different suspension set up to Toyotas 86 and i feel will be the better built unit and hold its resale value slightly better than Toyotas ....... however its still not a True sports car IMHO

[Acko1991]

I just don't wanna open a car door and get in it.....Then realise....Oh NO!....I am in a toyota haha....I must sound like a bit of a snob but they are so boring.

[Candyman]

I just don't wanna open a car door and get in it.....Then realise....Oh NO!....I am in a toyota haha....I must sound like a bit of a snob but they are so boring.

That what Audi owners think about your peasants car, VW

[Acko1991]

I don't see the difference....Audi's are a waste of money. unless u get quattro.

[Candyman]

I don't see the difference....Audi's are a waste of money. unless u get quattro.

It's a badge thing, much the way some see Toyota.

Drive one, then comment

The Golf/Polo is a nice place to be and a good all rounder but not a drivers car

[DoggieHowser]

The Subaru BRZ 86 has a different suspension set up to Toyotas 86 and i feel will be the better built unit and hold its resale value slightly better than Toyotas ....... however its still not a True sports car IMHO

That may be the case for Australian assembled variants. But the 86 is built in Japan so the QC should be better.

[kaanage]

....... however its still not a True sports car IMHO

What makes it ineligible for the tag IYO? It's as much a sports car as the legendary Datsun 240Z IMHO

[Acko1991]

I drive toyotas all the time....The Toyota Kluger, HiLux and the Toyota corolla at work...They are Defence fleet cars....They are great A-B cars....they just look and feel very cheap.

[Candyman]

Ever driven a current model Beetle ....

Even my R is hardly a great drivers car.

How anyone can equate the 86 they haven't driven to a Corolla, that meets with positive reviews by professional drivers, is interesting

[Acko1991]

Don't get me wrong the 86 looks really great....I am interested in the car...

No never driven a beetle....

I owned a BMW E36 M3 EVO .... That was pretty awesome....I am actually keen on getting that experience back for a lot less in the 86 (even though the power isn't there; although I'm sure it will be fun!) seeing as i can't afford a new M3 and after having bad experiences with used cars i'd rather stick to brand new at the moment.

Just the fact its a Toyota puts me off and all the car reviews have stated even by 'Toyotas standards the cabin interior is below par' And the standards of the Toyota cabins that I jump in leave much to be desired.

I wanna feel like I'm driving a quality car....Not more so impress the bloke next to me at the traffic lights.....

[Diesel_vert]

There's only so much money you can pour into a car with a RRP of $29k. I'd gather a lot of it went into the engine (100HP per litre, naturally aspirated), drivetrain development, fine-tuning of the steering, suspension & vehicle dynamics, driver feedback, etc.

From looking at the photos, I'd say the criticisms of the interior are valid.

If you want a car with an expensive feeling interior, the 86/BRZ is not for you.

[06eleven]

The Subaru BRZ 86 has a different suspension set up to Toyotas 86 and i feel will be the better built unit and hold its resale value slightly better than Toyotas ....... however its still not a True sports car IMHO

They are both built by Subaru in the same factory. There won't be any difference in quality, and resale differences will only be due to brand perception by consumers in the second hand market. If anything, the fact that the Toyota is identical except some minor trim & damper settings will bring down the second hand value of the Subaru version. I don't see how they'll be able to price it much higher (except maybe with extra equipment).

Seeing as the primary engineering was done by Subaru & most of the hardware is from Subaru's parts bin, it's more Subaru than Toyota. Except that the styling isn't hideous as per Subaru's recent form.