POLO GTI Engine Oil Change Question

[Gambit]

Gambit, we like to hear from you will say.

Drive it like you stole it
Change the oil yourself at 5k km's using recommended oil from VW spare parts and then just monitor therein till 15k km's for its first service.

[gavs]

I'd say so.

How they're pushing this past the warranty office at VW Australia is beyond me.

I've done probably 15 oil consumption tests in the last 18 months, 5 of which on Polo GTIs.

The bulletins and procedures state that it should not be performed before the 15,000klm service, and that it is at the customer's expense until proven that the oil consumption is in fact outside the maximum tolerances.

Believe me, I wouldn't have bothered posting, unless I knew what I was talking about.

I think that because it is such a widespread, global issue that they get it through. There has been complete engine replacements done in less than 15000 kms in some cases, locally and abroad. I know how you know as I am sure many others do but why else would do many dealerships do it if it's against the instruction of VGA?

[Umai Naa!!]

I think that because it is such a widespread, global issue that they get it through. There has been complete engine replacements done in less than 15000 kms in some cases, locally and abroad. I know how you know as I am sure many others do but why else would do many dealerships do it if it's against the instruction of VGA?

In the case of the Polo GTI, complete replacement engines aren't usually required. Just a new set of rings, and any other non-reusuable parts, as stated in the workshop manual (ELSA). HOWEVER, as with all engine rebuilds, careful measuring of the bores, pistons, and ring-lands, etc would be required. If the measurements were outside of the specifications, then yeah, a replacement short motor would most likely be the course of action.

I can't speak for the actions of dealers that have pushed through this particualr field fix before the outlined time period, but I would imagine there'd either be a very good reason for it (With the blessing of VW, no doubt), or some very creative warranty reports. If VW Australia's warranty department decided otherwise, the dealership's claim would most likely be bounced, leaving the dealership to foot the bill. Whether any sort of warranty on that particular repair, or parts used, would be at the discretion of VW Australia.

It's a messy business, I tell you. This is why I try and encourage everyone to do everything by the book (Til the warranty runs out). Honestly, it doesn't take much for someone at VW to get the big red VOID stamp out.

I do recall a customer having to supply their own BWA motor for their Golf GTI, after a knocking noise in the engine was complained about. VW requested a data dump of the ECU, which revealed an over rev fault code to the tune of 9,500rpm at 113klm/h. How it didn't throw a leg out of bed truely is a testament to the quality of these engines!

[noone]

Wow, so how did the ECU allow almost 10k rpm?

How common are these issues?

[pologti18t]

Wow, so how did the ECU allow almost 10k rpm?

How common are these issues?

Easy... you down change into 1st gear (manual) whilst doing 113km/h

[Umai Naa!!]

Spot-on. No rev limiter will stop a downshift like that.

[Diesel_vert]

First gear in a Mk5 Golf GTI at 113 km/h is about 12500 RPM, so that person must've pulled the clutch before it got as high as that!

[Umai Naa!!]

I'd love to know how and why, but as you can imagine, the customer wasn't very forthcoming with information.

[Karly101]

I'd say so.

How they're pushing this past the warranty office at VW Australia is beyond me.

I've done probably 15 oil consumption tests in the last 18 months, 5 of which on Polo GTIs.

The bulletins and procedures state that it should not be performed before the 15,000klm service, and that it is at the customer's expense until proven that the oil consumption is in fact outside the maximum tolerances.

Believe me, I wouldn't have bothered posting, unless I knew what I was talking about.

This doesn't seem to be the case- read the threads on oil usage sticked on the top. Mine had oil consumption test around 8,000km, engine rebuild (approx 10,000 I think it was) and then engine replacement at 15,000km. I've lost count the amount of litres I've chucked in the car (and the dealer has put in as I go there for top ups after I use my litre bottle of oil) so mine was an excessive case but doesn't seem to be the only one on this forum.

[Transporter]

By now the OP had his answer. We have just too many threads with the similar topic. You can continue in this thread; http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...tml#post819777