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  • From 77 to 100 in 15 minutes

    Okay, okay - so it's a catchy title - but it's true.

    Finally got around to putting DNA's Stage 1 into my Polo.

    As most people would know I've been really pleased with it and love the nippy engine mated to the DSG. So plugging in John's laptop that he'd posted to me, and then having him login remotely and upload the modified code to my beloved VW meant a 10 minute install, and then a 5 minute repack of his laptop - so it didnt slide off the seat when I went for my first born again drive.

    Holy Stage 1 !! - it's great. Just as relaxed and finessed around town / easy on the throttle, but now with a push further on the accelerator comes a mini-growl and rapid increase in RPM, right to the edge of the redline. It's a brilliant transformation...I put it into S mode to drive the 5 minute test journey back home, and did not want to return, except for the children needing picked up at school.

    Thanks John - it's a brilliant upgrade. It's added another dimension to my 77, ahem my 100.
    MY18 GOLF 110TSI I HIGHLINE I Indium I Panoramic Sunroof I DAP I IP
    MY18 TIGUAN 162TSI I R-LINE I Ruby I DAP I IP

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    You know you have to change your name now?

    If I might ask, how much did John ask you? Did he courier the laptop because your in a different city?
    POLO 77TSI DSG 5D - MY11 - REFLEX SILVER - COMFORT PACK
    Engine - K&N Air Filter (e-2997)
    AV - Rockford Fosgate T1652-S , T1652 and P3L-S12 Sub. Alpine MRP-F600 and Alpine MRP-M500, Dynamat
    Planned - lots, but the "financial manager" says NO

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    • #3
      Originally posted by broxigar1983 View Post
      You know you have to change your name now?

      If I might ask, how much did John ask you? Did he courier the laptop because your in a different city?
      Hi - John is offering it at $730 for the moment - correct me if wrong John.

      Yes he couriered the laptop, dongle thingy and cables to me, then he remote connected to the pc and ran the install over the wifi network.
      MY18 GOLF 110TSI I HIGHLINE I Indium I Panoramic Sunroof I DAP I IP
      MY18 TIGUAN 162TSI I R-LINE I Ruby I DAP I IP

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      • #4
        Steve, I can't thank you enough for your glowing review; it truly is very much appreciated.

        To answer the questions above, yes indeed, I send this kit around for interstate upgrades. It is very simple to use - but made even simpler as I can simply connect remotely and carry out the process (other than physically connecting the cable to the car).

        The cost of the upgrade is $730 as mentioned; a refundable bond is required for this loan equipment kit, and all relevant shipping costs are included in the price.

        Looking forward to the next happy "77 to 100 in 15 minutes" customer!
        VWWC Members - 2018 Special - ECU & DSG Remaps
        DNA Tuning Australia - Enquiries: info@dnatuning.com.au

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        • #5
          Just have to made a bigger intercooler and larger diameter dump pipe then it will be 77 to GTI in 15 mintues hey John

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          • #6
            77 to 100 in 15 minutes! For a second there I thought you meant km/h as you'd bought an old Kombi van

            Good work on the relatively cheap upgrade.

            Cheers.
            '76 Mk1 Golf - Gone!
            '05 Mk5 2.0 FSI Sportline
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            • #7
              Is this something that can be done for the GTI? If so, what's the increase???
              Polo GTI - 5 door - Candy White, Xenons, Comfort Package, Audio Upgrade, Bluetooth, Parking Sensors and Tint

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              • #8
                John will have to confirm this (due to nice little nasties now like the MED17.5.2 ECU no being found in the MY11.5 onward cars) but the GTI was showing from 132kw to 155kw and 250Nm torque up to around the 300nm mark, IF it can be done remotely. On the GTI, it's more likely a whole ECU out jobbie....
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DNA Tuning View Post
                  Steve, I can't thank you enough for your glowing review; it truly is very much appreciated.

                  To answer the questions above, yes indeed, I send this kit around for interstate upgrades. It is very simple to use - but made even simpler as I can simply connect remotely and carry out the process (other than physically connecting the cable to the car).

                  The cost of the upgrade is $730 as mentioned; a refundable bond is required for this loan equipment kit, and all relevant shipping costs are included in the price.

                  Looking forward to the next happy "77 to 100 in 15 minutes" customer!
                  Just wanted to ask with the ecu upgrade i gather it will void my VW warranty due to modification?

                  Also reading 77's review does it go to the redline or exceed the redline? (very fearful of passing the red line as i know it will hurt my engine.)

                  Cheers

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                  • #10
                    I have liaised with John about getting my GTI remapped. Price is $830 (GTI) and takes 2 appointments as the ECU is removed. All ECU ID info remains intact to reduce detectability. He is a mobile service so he comes to you after hours. Ratings are 155kw at the flywheel.

                    After I get the full Milltek exhaust and new APR air intake my car should be quite the little rocket.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hail22 View Post
                      Just wanted to ask with the ecu upgrade i gather it will void my VW warranty due to modification?

                      Also reading 77's review does it go to the redline or exceed the redline? (very fearful of passing the red line as i know it will hurt my engine.)

                      Cheers
                      Covered many a time before my friend and so long as the tune doesn't directly effect what you are claiming warranty on, like a blown rear shock for example, you will be fine
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by gavs View Post
                        Covered many a time before my friend and so long as the tune doesn't directly effect what you are claiming warranty on, like a blown rear shock for example, you will be fine

                        Then my last question would be, what would the stresses be like on the turbo? since the psi is lifted wouldn't there be a worry of damage to the brushes as the turbo's output will be increased thus more demand on the component?

                        Just want to quel fears >.<

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                        • #13
                          I too had warranty concerns at first, but decided on doing a dealer service first - to get any updates, initial diagnostic out the road. Then I did the DNA upgrade.

                          The way I see it is - lose door, rattle, exhaust etc - not directly affected - no issue. If there was an engine issue, an I got the dealer nod, then worst case is remap back to stock before taking it in.

                          Seems to me most driving is not at the extreme and so the engine is no more stressed than an average drive. Today for example - going to work didn't result in me booting the @rse off it. Far from it, typically fuel conservation is my goal. So on the odd occasion where additional torque or power is warranted - I know it's there to use.

                          It's an individual thing, but I feel certain the first dealer service was a good move, and my subsequent plans are to use the independent vw specialist from here on in. It's not a brutal mod, so I can't imagine brutal results in engine wear. Three years and I plan to sell or trade up to a Golf R
                          MY18 GOLF 110TSI I HIGHLINE I Indium I Panoramic Sunroof I DAP I IP
                          MY18 TIGUAN 162TSI I R-LINE I Ruby I DAP I IP

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                          • #14
                            hail, you dont have to worry.

                            i've been running an "aggressive" tune in my polo, with 18psi requested boost (spiking to up to 22psi apparently), all day, thrashing the sht out of my car for 18 months, and still no single problem.

                            my tune is viezu, but the bottom line is that any of the reputable tuners like apr, giac, revo, viezu, custom code, superchips / bluefin, dna etc know what they're doing, and it's just in their best interests to test extensively on test mules / cars (usually in the usa or the uk) before releasing information for and advertising tunes to be sold for public consumption.

                            the data logging that takes place, and the inspection of your stock map, is something that i presume is done so that the parameters that are altered on YOUR particular car are within acceptable levels.

                            many of the companies here such as the ones i listed above, do things with customer satisfaction and safety in mind. a company as large as dna wouldnt put out a tune if they had any doubt that its mapping would jeopardise any of the components in the car (for stage 1, let alone stage 2 etc - they wont map the turbo to boost that hard unless you have supporting hardware like intercooler / exhaust).

                            even companies like malone tuning say that they'll wick up the boost beyond "practical" levels at the request of a customer, so long as the customer is fully aware of the risks of doing so...

                            you'll be fine - any failure of hardware under stage 1 mapping would be indicative of a weakness with the hardware itself, not the map.

                            there are many reputable tuners in australia for VW's now... i think it's safe to say that the days of quivering in your boots as you get a stage 1 tune loaded to your car, flipping frantically through the "warranty" legalese, are over. it seems that tuners have more headaches nowadays with dealing with ecu encryption than anything else.

                            stress less!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by VWindahouse View Post
                              bigger intercooler and larger diameter dump pipe
                              any news on that front, or even cat-back for better sound?


                              Originally posted by 77kw polo TSi View Post
                              I too had warranty concerns at first, but decided on doing a dealer service first ... Three years and I plan to sell or trade up to a Golf R
                              took the words right out of my mouth...dealer service in a few weeks, then remap and golf R in a few years
                              MY18 Golf 7.5R - Ecotune Stage 1
                              Mazda RX2 - 13B Bridgeport GTX4202R

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