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  • #46
    Let me say once again that I find the DSG faster for upshifts than I could ever be - the underlying engineering ensures this. Also in normal driving, it shifts very smoothly, especially if you let it pick when to shift rather than trying to manually override.

    Like all autos though, the shift points in both D and S mode are not always where I would choose them to be, especially for off throttle situations and I find the manual down shifting sometimes slower than I would like. Plus light throttle takeoffs can be a little jerky if you shift to neutral while stopped and don't shift into gear a couple of seconds before takeoff. But these are pretty minor complaints given the normal speed and smoothness.

    But the hesitation after a momentary stop is not something I find totally satisfactory as it sometimes leaves you in awkward and potentially dangerous situations. And while you can say "just don't stop", it's not that easy to alter your thinking when you swap vehicles and are concentrating on a traffic situation rather than trying to remember that the car has a behaviour mode that you're best off avoiding.

    It's like swapping between a track bike with race shift vs a sports bike with road shift - the time you forget is when you're concentrating on what you need to do rather than how to do it.

    If I only drove DSG equipped cars, maybe I'd never get caught out by this quirk but don't say it doesn't exist (this comment isn't pointed at you, Corey).
    Resident grumpy old fart
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    • #47
      i realised that on the DSG, there is a sweet spot on the depression of the gas pedal from standstill. this sweet spot lets you take off instantly and smoothly. too little and it hesitates, too much and it jerks. i guess over ~2000km of driving will get your leg's muscle memory accustomed to this
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      • #48
        i had hesitation from a standstill and jerkiness on take off nearly all the time... this gearbox has since been replaced with a new unit (as i had other issues also).
        the new gearbox is soooo much better. No "sweet" spot needed... it is smooth from a standstill all the time no matter how much throttle i apply - which is how it should be, and there is no hesitation - straight off the brake and on the throttle and away it goes.
        1974 1300 Beetle, 1997 Golf GL, 2003 New Beetle Cabrio, 2014 Audi A4 quattro

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