What have you done with your Polo so far (and today)

[jaedencook]

The H&R springs are now rated at 20 front and 30-35 rear.

$700 installed sounds a little excessive....but then again I don't know if you're including wheel alignment in that price.
$260 AUD delivered from Orange tuning and $250 installation is what I paid.

Wheel alignment was included yes.

[Mike]

The H&R springs are now rated at 20 front and 30-35 rear.

$700 installed sounds a little excessive....but then again I don't know if you're including wheel alignment in that price.
$260 AUD delivered from Orange tuning and $250 installation is what I paid.

Can you post up some pics of your car?
Really want to see those wheels on your car, and see it lowered

[gavs]

Wheel alignment was included yes.

Polo doesn't need a wheel alignment when changing springs or struts, you can't adjust the camber on these cars either so sorry mate, I think you got ripped off Unless your toe was super out of course......

[broxigar1983]

Just purchased some DYNAMAT for the car

Time to get dirty again

[jaedencook]

Polo doesn't need a wheel alignment when changing springs or struts, you can't adjust the camber on these cars either so sorry mate, I think you got ripped off Unless your toe was super out of course......

Hm darn...
I don't think I'll be going down that path now anyway, think i'll save the pennies for the full coilover experience... one day... far away...

[ATYPIC]

Can you post up some pics of your car?
Really want to see those wheels on your car, and see it lowered

The springs only got installed today but I will go take some photos and post them asap. Just been too busy at work to scratch myself.

[ATYPIC]

Polo doesn't need a wheel alignment when changing springs or struts, you can't adjust the camber on these cars either so sorry mate, I think you got ripped off Unless your toe was super out of course......

That's right but if you change your wheels and springs like i have then you do need an alignment after the springs settle.

After being quoted $250 for the spring installation I only got charged $200 in the end.

[gavs]

That's right but if you change your wheels and springs like i have then you do need an alignment after the springs settle.

After being quoted $250 for the spring installation I only got charged $200 in the end.

Sorry dude, you don't because you physically can't perform any alignment other than toe in / out on the front wheels. This is from the service manuals:

Note
♦ Camber correction is necessary only after body repairs. Camber
cannot be adjusted. However, it can be mediated by
shifting the subframe!♦ Move subframe only to left or right, but never in or opposite to
direction of normal travel!
– Remove noise insulation.
– Loosen bolts -1- to -4- for securing subframe to body.
The camber adjustment range is limited by the tolerances of the
holes in the subframe. If the specified value is not reached by
shifting the subframe, this and the body must be inspected
⇒ page 1 .
– Now camber may be adjusted to specification by moving subframe.
– Tighten new bolts for subframe to body to specified torque plus
extra turn angle.
After shifting the subframe/steering box, clearance between the
steering column universal joint and the cutout in the bulkhead
must be checked.
– Fold floor covering back slightly.
There must be a clearance of 5 mm all round between universal
joint -1- and cutout in bulkhead -2-.
Specified torques
Component Specified torque
Subframe to body
♦ Use new bolts.
70 Nm + 90°
5.8 Check rear axle camber
Camber cannot be adjusted.If a value lies outside the tolerances, the vehicle's transverse inclination
must be checked and, if necessary, compensated for
⇒ page 126 .
If the measured values lie outside the permitted tolerances, the
axle body must be checked for damage and if necessary renewed.
5.9 Check rear axle toe
Toe cannot be adjusted.

[Mike]

Wait... so if i put my H&R springs in i don't need to get an alignment, or if i put different wheels on?

[ATYPIC]

Wait... so if i put my H&R springs in i don't need to get an alignment, or if i put different wheels on?

In no way am I suggesting gavs information is incorrect, hell its in the manual but Mike...I've been informed by 3 different workshops including Trutrack that I need to get a general wheel alignment after the springs settle for a couple of weeks.

FWIW...my car feels damn good with the lighter wheels and h&r springs installed.

[BENN0]

Dude, there is no way they can adjust camber or toe on the rear. Its a twist beam rear end (Net build design)
The best they can do is manipulate the subframe position (no need unless you get rear ended)

The front will only have toe adjustment via the steering rack. And if the tie rods weren't moved when the springs were changed over (they have no reason to be), then toe should be fine also. Get it checked by all means, but dont bend over and accept a charge for a full alignment.

[gavs]

Ok, thyis is a comment for all of the 6R polo owners, if anyone charges you for a wheel alignment, you take a print out of the picture on the last page I posted and ask EXACTLY what have they aligned.

This has been brought up amny a time in the Mk4 Golf section of the forum and the basic suspension design on the 6R polo is the same. Many a suspension shop have "aligned" a Mk4 golf but they actually can't, like the manual says (which is the actual VW service manual!) the camber cannot be adjusted, the only thing that can be adjusted is the toe on the front wheels.

One suspension place told a Mk4 owner that their car had been in a severe accident because they couldn't do a proper wheel alignment. The owner had owned the car for the life of the vehicle and never pranged it! It's a general school of though amongst these so-called experts that work at these places that this is the normal thing to do........ On a commodore or falcon, yeah. Not on a VW and this is why those of us who have been around on this forum for a while always suggest you go and speak to a proper VW expert, not a generic shop.

Atypic, being in Melourne, go and speak with any of the following, they will tell you the truth, if any of them have been able to get a good look at a ^r polo yet:

Volkscare in bayswater
Volkspower in burwood
AudiVolks in Huntingdale

Any of these places will know what they're talking about

[broxigar1983]

Ok, thyis is a comment for all of the 6R polo owners, if anyone charges you for a wheel alignment, you take a print out of the picture on the last page I posted and ask EXACTLY what have they aligned...

Thanks for this Gavs, I will definitely take this with me when I get after market wheels later this year, suggest a forum mod makes a sticky of that?

[ATYPIC]

Can you post up some pics of your car?
Really want to see those wheels on your car, and see it lowered

Here is my car with the H&R 20/35mm springs installed. Just took a quick profile snap tonight but more to come on the weekend.

For me...I don't think any photo can do it justice. The car really does look superb in the flesh and it feels just awesome with the new springs.

[Smacca]

Here is my car with the H&R 20/35mm springs installed.

Looks awesome mate! Love it!!