Golf price attack on Carolla, Mazda3, (and the Polo 5 door TSI?)

[kaanage]

I think the Golf coming to Australia are indeed made in Germany, thats the reason why they put the 5 door version of Polo to South Africa because of the issues with that factory in the past. which affected their key model = the Golf

I went for the 3 door version as I said earlier, which is made in Spain if I am not mistaken.

I thought all of the new model Polos in Australia come from Spain and it was the previous model that came from South Africa.

[FJ Steve]

nope...5 door Polo is from South Africa

[kaanage]

Someone needs to tell the carsales.com.au guys then

[rs73]

I don't know cars for that purpose, I bought Polo as a city car, we cannot drive 120kph in Sydney...

But its important when overtaking when taking a drive in the country

well if you need to do 120kph just to take over another car, that means the other car might have done 100-110 the speed limit, which means it'll be illegal, and also pointless for you to take over as if you're doing the speed limit there shouldn't be any need to do so.

[FJ Steve]

Someone needs to tell the carsales.com.au guys then

Volkswagen Polo Review | Car Advice | Reviews

Before the sporty and range-topping GTI arrives towards the end of this year, the new Polo is currently available in two separate equipement grades: the entry level Polo Trendline and the more equipped Polo Comfortline. The Trendline models come from Spain while the Comfortline grades are sourced from a Volkswagen factory in South Africa.

[BR @ ON]

Yep, thats right! seem to read this everywhere I looked.

Spanish 3 doors and South African 5 doors.

Personally it would not influence my decision to a great length, as alot of BMW and Merc are made in South Africa. Not too familiar with these two car makers, but seems to be the case... Except I actually wanted 3 door version of the car, and thought the option of comfort pack will make up for the trim level!

And yer, like I said before, speeding is not my intention, so I think my slightly slower NA engine satisfies my needs

Back on the topic, I imagine people with a Polo 5 door might be a bit upset seeing the Golf (arguably the better 5 door car between the 2 models!) is going for such a good price, with an identical engine... Just 2K more???

[BR @ ON]

it would be nice that vw drop polos price, else its more logical to buy the golf

I totally get what you are saying, But the fact that the margin for Polo is already so low, it is difficult for the dealer to make any significant discounts. There are greater room for a GOLF (discount), until Now!!!

[pologti18t]

well if you need to do 120kph just to take over another car, that means the other car might have done 100-110 the speed limit, which means it'll be illegal, and also pointless for you to take over as if you're doing the speed limit there shouldn't be any need to do so.

You're kidding me? So if you are behind someone doing 90km/h in a 100 zone you will overtake them at 100 (speed diff = 10km/h or about 3m/s)? Do some maths and tell me how many seconds you will be on the wrong side of the road to do that.

[kaanage]

Volkswagen Polo Review | Car Advice | Reviews

Volkswagen Polo Car Info - Car Research - carsales.com.au

Country of origin SPAIN

[BR @ ON]

You're kidding me? So if you are behind someone doing 90km/h in a 100 zone you will overtake them at 100 (speed diff = 10km/h or about 3m/s)? Do some maths and tell me how many seconds you will be on the wrong side of the road to do that.

You sound like you have done this maths already, But most of us don't have the time to do the calculation while driving...
hahaha

[pologti18t]

You sound like you have done this maths already, But most of us don't have the time to do the calculation while driving...
hahaha

Well lets say a car is 5m long. You are supposed to leave a 2 sec gap which is 50m at 90km/h. Lets say you pull back in 1 sec gap ahead.
Thats about an extra 80m you have to cover at 3 m/s (10km/h diff in speed - you never exceed 100km/h). That's upto 27 seconds and 700m on the wrong side of the road.

If you overtake at 120km/h the speed difference is about 8m/s. Which reduces overtaking time in this example by nearly 2/3rds.

[rs73]

You're kidding me? So if you are behind someone doing 90km/h in a 100 zone you will overtake them at 100 (speed diff = 10km/h or about 3m/s)? Do some maths and tell me how many seconds you will be on the wrong side of the road to do that.

that's because I'll overtake when there is enough space (and time) to do so. i'm never in a hurry to anywhere anyway... all was pre-planned and most of the time I always arrived 10-15 min before any appointments...

[rs73]

Well lets say a car is 5m long. You are supposed to leave a 2 sec gap which is 50m at 90km/h. Lets say you pull back in 1 sec gap ahead.
Thats about an extra 80m you have to cover at 3 m/s (10km/h diff in speed - you never exceed 100km/h). That's upto 27 seconds and 700m on the wrong side of the road.

If you overtake at 120km/h the speed difference is about 8m/s. Which reduces overtaking time in this example by nearly 2/3rds.

fair enough - I can't be bothered spending time to do such maths,
most of the roads I travelled are dual lanes anyway, except like GOR but they do have overtaking lanes every few kms.

I guess that's why I only had 1 speeding fines over the past 19 years of driving experience...
actually hardly remembered taking over anyone at all on most country driving, I guess I am your 90km/h driver in the 100 zone.
go on come and hate me... LOL

[4wheels]

Well lets say a car is 5m long. You are supposed to leave a 2 sec gap which is 50m at 90km/h. Lets say you pull back in 1 sec gap ahead.
Thats about an extra 80m you have to cover at 3 m/s (10km/h diff in speed - you never exceed 100km/h). That's upto 27 seconds and 700m on the wrong side of the road.
If you overtake at 120km/h the speed difference is about 8m/s. Which reduces overtaking time in this example by nearly 2/3rds.

That's an interesting and completely sensible argument that most enthusiasts would agree with, but I don't like your chances before the judge in this Nanny state/s. Another example of how the obsessively strict enforcement of speed limits can be counter-productive to genuine safety. Of course, if we believe the propaganda ('speed kills'), you would implode doing 120Km/hr.

Brian

[Buller_Scott]

That's an interesting and completely sensible argument that most enthusiasts would agree with, but I don't like your chances before the judge in this Nanny state/s. Another example of how the obsessively strict enforcement of speed limits can be counter-productive to genuine safety. Of course, if we believe the propaganda ('speed kills'), you would implode doing 120Km/hr.

Brian

it's a shame...

apparently, in melbourne, u turns on highways across double white lines etc are okay, as well as travelling 85kmh in the right hand lane on the eastern fwy.... because at least you're not speeding.

****ing clown town....