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[Polo_GTI]

Is the Motul 5W40 full synthetic any good for the Polo GTI?

What weight oil should I be using?

[nomadx38]

I have a 77tsi and I moved from Shell Helix to the Castrol Edge Professional (Because it is what VW recomends and I allways use Castrol in my engines) and though I would say it definitely makes my engine a bit louder (valves, timing chain etc) I would also say the engine has better throttle response which would lead me to believe that it runs thinner than other brands (which could be why it is burning off). I think it is a bit harsh to say though that it is **** oil but yes its properties may not be suitable for this hot country.

But my engine doesnt chew any oil by switching to it. I know the 77tsi's don't have big oil consumption problems (apparently new ones do???) and I would assume that is more a design fault than a oil problem. Would be funny if the change in engine design is causing these issues. My engine is a CAVE (I think, July 2011 bulid, delivered in September 2011) with no problems, which is annoying becuase every service they overfill the oil right up and i have to empty it a bit - 500 - 750mm to the top of the top mark. The new engines have forged piston rings or somthing and now there is problems...Interesting

[danielv10]

If your rattle sounds like a clicking sound coming from both sides (almost like morse code) then I have a similar problem, VW techicians have been in the car and believe its coming from behind the trim near the rear setbelts. They are taking it back to have a closer investigation in early January the car is booked for 2 days. and they are giving me a loaner.

That sounds like exactly what's going on with my car. Hope they find it and fix it for you.
I'm trying what nomadx38 suggested so hopefully mine might be as simple as that.

And in regards to oil consumption, I had a little top-up when I took my car in to the dealer for 6 month "health check". Prior to that I had pretty much replaced the whole 5L of Castrol from factory, as it was burnt off, with Penrite Enviro+ oil. And lo and behold it started to burn up again once they topped it up. Now after I topped it again with the Penrite, it hasn't moved after 1000km.

[ATYPIC]

Prior to that I had pretty much replaced the whole 5L of Castrol from factory, as it was burnt off, with Penrite Enviro+ oil. And lo and behold it started to burn up again once they topped it up. Now after I topped it again with the Penrite, it hasn't moved after 1000km.

This was absolutely it for me too! The moment I began using Penrite just before the 15K service was the moment everything seemed to change for the better. Topped up with one litre just before the service...then drained/flushed by Euroclass at service and filled with same Penrite..and whammo...8000km later not a drop used.

[Melon Head]

Has anyone tried out Mobil 1?

[prcurrie]

Change your oil mate, the castrol stuff is rubbish and my car which burns next to nothing absolutely loves drinking the Castrol Edge Professional Longlife 5W30.

Fuchs is my next trial but Liqui Moly Top Tech 4200 is my current brand and works well.

Gavs. Been on Liqui Moly since the service. Provided my own oil but it seems to be chewing through it quicker than the VW stuff!

[gavs]

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Hmmm, that's weird then.

And in relation to nomad's post, VW now no longer recommend Castrol regardless of the oil cap. The guys at Volkspower have an official letter stating that Fuchs TITAN Pro C3 5W30 is the best and recommended oil to use. They have said that even oil swilling cars magically slow down or even stop their oil drinking ways with it.

Motul is bloody good oil too.

Weight has no bearing. What you want is an approved VW 504/507 spec oil.

[Melon Head]

Gavs. Been on Liqui Moly since the service. Provided my own oil but it seems to be chewing through it quicker than the VW stuff!

The bastards are probably keeping it for their own car and putting castrol in yours.

[Polo_GTI]

Motul is bloody good oil too.

Weight has no bearing. What you want is an approved VW 504/507 spec oil.

Motul was the only brand I ever used to use on my s15. Great oil.

Excuse the noob, but how can I tell if the oil is 504/507 spec?

I've travelled 2000kms and I'd like to put fresh oil in at 5000kms. Dealer 15000 is too long.

[Melon Head]

Should say what specs the oil meets on the back of the bottle.

[gavs]

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Doesn't matter about the specs, you need the actual approval. Do a google search for "Vw approved oils 504/507" and the spreadsheet should pop up. If not, I have a PDF an could try and sticky it...

[Melon Head]

VW504/507 is a specification the oil must pass so as I just said, it will say on the bottle if it meets this spec

[gavs]

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No, that is incorrect.

You could buy a bottle of oil that says "Meets and/or exceeds VAG 504/507 requirements for lubrication" but if the oil has not been tested and approved with a certificate from VAG then meeting the requirements doesn't mean squat.

The oil could meet the VAG 504/507 specification for lubrication and say so on the bottle, but could be full of iron filings (poor example I know but it's all I could think of). It MUST be an approved oil because anyone who risks it and takes the car in for warranty thinking VW won't take an oil sample, think again.... Young kid in my office just forked out $3600 for a new turbo on his TDI golf because he had been topping it up with the wrong oil and had an oil sample taken.

Specification means nothing.

Approval is the word that has to be on the label.

[Transporter]

Yes, that's right.
Meets, exceedes and approved have a different meaning and some oiul companies are really playing it well to confuse buyers, just to sell their product.

[Guest001]

Try this link from an earlier thread on this site

https://erwin.volkswagen.de/erwin/volkswagen/files/oil/step_50400_50700.pdf

And this will help as well

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/f77/why-you-need-use-504-507-oils-fsi-tsi-tdi-engines-47140.html