MY17 Passat B8 updates

[Flipper Dog]

And who will pay Audi A6 prices for a Passat in Australia

[Radknight]

I'm pretty happy with my new R-Line 132TSI wagon. No regrets except the 19" wheels and Sydney roads work the kidneys a bit. The only real things I find inexcusable is no passenger side mirror dipping in reverse (because I have the ergo seats) and lack of sunglasses holder (due to panoramic sunroof). I do wonder how hot it's going to get with the big sunroof and the light fabric of the shade but I'll deal with that then.


Other than that, great car.

[VR28LT]

Hi guys ive been a long time VW owner/driver and after many many performance Golfs (VR6s and GTIs) its time to look at something a little more mature and bigger without feeling and looking like my life is over lol
We currently have a mk6 GTI and mk7 90 TSI in the garage but the kids are starting to look a little uncomfortable in the back of the GOLF. Im really liking the look of the new Passat especially with the R line pack im just unsure which is the best engine to go for.... Can anyone tell me if the engine and gearbox in the petrol 1.8 is the same that is found in the Polo GTI?

[tigger73]

Im really liking the look of the new Passat especially with the R line pack im just unsure which is the best engine to go for.... Can anyone tell me if the engine and gearbox in the petrol 1.8 is the same that is found in the Polo GTI?

The R-line pack on the Passat does finish it off nicely.

Passat 132TSI = 1.8 turbo petrol (CJSA) + 7 speed DQ200 DSG

This engine is closest to the Golf Alltrack (CJSB) and Skoda Octavia Scout (CJS%) 132TSI engine, though both of these cars come with the higher torque 6 speed DQ250 DSG which is shared with Golf GTI/R.

The Polo GTI has a 1.8 turbo petrol, however the engine number on this car is a lot different (DAJA/DAJB) and it makes slightly more power (141kW). Whether this is the same engine with different tune or has significantly different components you'd have to start digging through the manuals/parts catalogs, however it's clearly a different series than the other 3 cars.


Passat 140TDI = 2.0 TDI (DFCA) with 6 speed DQ250 DSG

Has the higher torque DSG gearbox which is the one that I'd pick if I was purchasing a Golf/Passat.


The other option you'll have shortly is the new Tiguan (launching here in the next month or so). Just to make things confusing this also has a 132TSI engine (CZPA), however it's based on the 2.0turbo GTI motor (CXDA) and is detuned to 132kW. The Tiguan has the high torque DQ500 7 speed DSG which is by far the stronger/more reliable of the 3 DSG gearboxes that you see in VW vehicles. The DQ500 DSG gearbox also gets used in the Transporter and some higher power Audis (TT-RS).

If you were going to keep the car longer term, the DQ500 is the only one I'd recommend. Though the DQ200 has certainly improved a lot since a few years ago.

[VR28LT]

The R-line pack on the Passat does finish it off nicely.

Passat 132TSI = 1.8 turbo petrol (CJSA) + 7 speed DQ200 DSG

This engine is closest to the Golf Alltrack (CJSB) and Skoda Octavia Scout (CJS%) 132TSI engine, though both of these cars come with the higher torque 6 speed DQ250 DSG which is shared with Golf GTI/R.

The Polo GTI has a 1.8 turbo petrol, however the engine number on this car is a lot different (DAJA/DAJB) and it makes slightly more power (141kW). Whether this is the same engine with different tune or has significantly different components you'd have to start digging through the manuals/parts catalogs, however it's clearly a different series than the other 3 cars.


Passat 140TDI = 2.0 TDI (DFCA) with 6 speed DQ250 DSG

Has the higher torque DSG gearbox which is the one that I'd pick if I was purchasing a Golf/Passat.


The other option you'll have shortly is the new Tiguan (launching here in the next month or so). Just to make things confusing this also has a 132TSI engine (CZPA), however it's based on the 2.0turbo GTI motor (CXDA) and is detuned to 132kW. The Tiguan has the high torque DQ500 7 speed DSG which is by far the stronger/more reliable of the 3 DSG gearboxes that you see in VW vehicles. The DQ500 DSG gearbox also gets used in the Transporter and some higher power Audis (TT-RS).

If you were going to keep the car longer term, the DQ500 is the only one I'd recommend. Though the DQ200 has certainly improved a lot since a few years ago.

Thank you for your reply.... How they can take something that can be so simple and make it so complicated is beyond me with what appears to be the same yet different engines lol

What is putting me off the petrol is the thought of having another 7sp dry clutch dq200 in the garage.... we have had nothing but issues with the 2 mk7s in our extended family ( both the wifes and the one we bought for mum ) . The GTI mk6 with the 6sp wet clutch dq250 has been a dream to own.

Might hold off until the 206tsi makes an appearance i would hate to feel like i should have been patient and missed out on a gem

[tigger73]

Thank you for your reply.... How they can take something that can be so simple and make it so complicated is beyond me with what appears to be the same yet different engines lol

What is putting me off the petrol is the thought of having another 7sp dry clutch dq200 in the garage.... we have had nothing but issues with the 2 mk7s in our extended family ( both the wifes and the one we bought for mum ) . The GTI mk6 with the 6sp wet clutch dq250 has been a dream to own.

Might hold off until the 206tsi makes an appearance i would hate to feel like i should have been patient and missed out on a gem

Yes unfortunately I don't think your experience with the DQ200 7 speed DSG has been a single isolated incident. Hence the reason I would only recommend a DQ250 or DQ500 DSG or go base model with manual. Unfortunately there's no manual in the Passat so you either have the 140TDI or wait until September for the 206TSI, though this will be in a higher price bracket than the 132TSI.

[Janko]

Might hold off until the 206tsi makes an appearance i would hate to feel like i should have been patient and missed out on a gem

Are you not tempted by the current offer on Passat B8 which is five year warranty and five year free service

[Buzy_Robot]

MY17 B8 Passat updates are on the way, but no mention of the 206TSI:

2017 Volkswagen passenger cars updated: Added equipment, increased prices across the range

[Eaglehawk]

Damn, AllTrack misses out on the R-Line option, so no Active Info Display.

[Janko]

What is the earliest we can get a MY17 manufactured in 2017?

[Buzy_Robot]

What is the earliest we can get a MY17 manufactured in 2017?

If it's any indication, my B8 MY16 Passat was built in February 2016 and I took delivery on April 23rd 2016.

[limiteded]

The updates including the electric memory seats and folding mirrors as standard on comfortline,140tdi, and alltrack is good, and should not have been left out from model launch last year. At least they are rectifying this.
But VW Aust should not be upping the prices to recover the inclusions of these items as standard. If they want sales growth then they cant just add equipment and up the price, they need to make people feel value is added.

the addition of active info as an option is great news, and im sure negtioation on that option will be in the dealers favour.

hopefully the luxury pack for the alltrack get revised to include paddle shifters because the fact that it doesnt have them currently is ridiculous, especially when you can get them on the golf alltrack with the sports luxury pack. Towing load downhill, especially winedy downhill, makes paddles a useful little tool.

When the sunroof becomes a separate option and not a mandatory part of the luxury pack, then ill go put my money down. I want a sunglasses holder, not glass in my roof.

my 2 cents but all these little things were the reason i ended up not going forward with the purchase of a B8 140TDI,
and instead got a fullyloaded B7 Alltrack that was minus the sunroof.

In sayin all that the B8s i test drove were in awesome and a big leap in refinement, and i love the discover pro navigation system.

[Riker]

See following article on the upcoming farewell Wolfsburg edition Scirroco R & Beetle. Now skipping through that take note of the latest info about the MY17 Passat updates. Most updates we already know, 206TSi, electric memory seats, active info display etc, however the price we didn't. If the writer is presenting factual info, MY17 Passat (206TSi) will come standard with a big bag of kit at a very reasonable price leaving only the panoramic roof as an option.

This is looking very tasty fella's..........

[lukebthomas]

Hi everyone. I was about to buy an alltrack my16. Dealer in melville,WA has told me that they couldn't get the initially promised orange version from overeast that my wife liked. They are now saying that they can vet me a luxury versioned MY17 model for an extra $1500. It'll take 1-2 months to arrive.
Is this reasonable? Anything thing i need to be thinking/looking out for?

Luke

[Amalgam]

http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2016...QjlGJk5uZT0xNQ..

Volkswagen Group Australia has announced an effective replacement for its previous-generation Passat R36 in the form of the Passat 206TSI R-Line.

To be available in sedan and wagon form, the Passat 206TSI will share its 206kW/380Nm 2.0-litre turbo-petrol engine, DSG dual-clutch automatic transmission and 4MOTION all-wheel drive system with the Golf R and Passat 206TSI 4x4.

Also standard will be adaptive chassis control, dynamic LED headlights, self-parking technology and 19-inch alloys.

Priced at $57,990 plus on-road costs for the sedan and $59,990 for the wagon,