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  • Lowering Springs with DCC

    Has anyone lowered their Passat (with DCC) using either Eibach or H&R springs?
    If so wat r the part numbers?

    Reason I ask is because I want to lower my Superb 20-30mm. It shares the same suspension components as the Passat B8.
    I can find plenty springs, but they are not compatible with vehicles fitted with self-leveling control, i.e. DCC.

    Are they specific ones that are DCC compatible?

    Or will there b no issues fitting lowering springs that are not DCC compatible?

    Any advice is much appreciated
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    DCC is not self levelling. DCC is basically adjustable dampers. Could be a bunch of reasons why it’s listed as not compatible - from things like the spring being too short (spring can fall out under full extension), or maybe even the front strut requires special tooling to disassemble. Best bet would be to contact the spring manufacturer and ask them why...
    Cheers

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    • #3
      Lowering Springs with DCC

      Most lowering springs are compatible with DCC.

      It’s the aftermarket shocks/coil overs that aren’t.

      The DCC shocks have adjustable damping so if you want to keep this feature any replacement shocks also have to have this.


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      Last edited by tigger73; 01-10-2018, 03:13 PM.

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      • #4
        Bear in mind that the 'Soft' setting will bring on sea-sickness a lot sooner than it normally does, as lowering springs are typically firmer. The 'Soft' setting in most cases with DCC has a bit of trouble controlling the oscillations of the standard springs as it is, in my experience.

        You'll probably find yourself running it on the 'Hard' setting for the most part, as it could well ride like it's got blown shocks.

        The springs will physically fit, as the only key difference with DCC shocks externally, is an electrical connector to control the internal valving.
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        • #5
          Right now I use "Individual" drive mode 99% of the time, with the suspension set to "Sport".
          Normal is a tad too soft.
          Hence the idea is with firmer springs, I can have a firmer ride in Normal mode, and much firmer ride in Sport mode.

          With regards to "self leveling" - wat I meant to say was that most of the springs states that they r not DCC friendly. Sounds like they not suited to DCC dampers.

          From wat I've read, if I'm lowering no more that 30mm, the DCC dampers should b fine.

          I've heard VWR springs r too firm/harsh with DCC.
          I've heard good things about H&R springs, but not in relation to DCC.
          I've heard good things about Eibach ProKit springs, with DCC, but on Golf GTi/Rs.
          Last edited by dArK5HaD0w; 03-10-2018, 04:15 PM.
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          • #6
            Eibach Pro Kit are a variable rate spring and although they don't give quite as much drop as some other springs (e.g. H&R) they do seem to give a better ride.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
              Eibach Pro Kit are a variable rate spring and although they don't give quite as much drop as some other springs (e.g. H&R) they do seem to give a better ride.
              Thanks.
              I'm not after a big drop, just a slightly firmer ride.

              I had a set of Eibach Pro-Kit springs in my previous car which was an Octavia RS.
              Was happy with that.

              I'll go down the same route with my Superb too
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              • #8
                i am looking at this. The Eibach 15mm is where i am heading. 30mm is too low. I believe you can recalibrate the DCC once fitted

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dArK5HaD0w View Post
                  Right now I use "Individual" drive mode 99% of the time, with the suspension set to "Sport".
                  Normal is a tad too soft.
                  Hence the idea is with firmer springs, I can have a firmer ride in Normal mode, and much firmer ride in Sport mode.

                  With regards to "self leveling" - wat I meant to say was that most of the springs states that they r not DCC friendly. Sounds like they not suited to DCC dampers.

                  From wat I've read, if I'm lowering no more that 30mm, the DCC dampers should b fine.

                  I've heard VWR springs r too firm/harsh with DCC.
                  I've heard good things about H&R springs, but not in relation to DCC.
                  I've heard good things about Eibach ProKit springs, with DCC, but on Golf GTi/Rs.
                  Have you looked into this further?
                  Here is some info on the VW Racingline Website; https://www.racingline.com/sport-spr...-96dej7NRLzgAw

                  Appears to be compatible with DCC.
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                  • #10
                    i've currently got my target locked on getting a set of Eibach ProKit springs, specifically - E10-85-042-02-22.
                    they're designed for Passat (B8 ) and Superb (3V).
                    front/rear = 35/30mm

                    about $500 from various ebay stores, delivered.

                    those RacingLine ones look promising too. how much would these set me back?
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                    • #11
                      Hey mate, just saw your post as I was searching for information on my Passat. I work at Eibach here in Australia give me a call during business hours I’ll look after you.
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                      • #12
                        HI Pass2093.


                        Where abouts are you, i am thinking of tightening up the sloppy feel of the Passat R to bring it more in line with our old R36

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                        • #13
                          Hi, I’m located on the Northern Beaches in Sydney. I don’t want to be seen as advertising here but I’m genuinely willing to assist group members with there suspension requirements.

                          I have a 132 wagon as my daily drive, a change of just the rear springs made the world of difference in driving dynamics for me, as I found the vehicle to sit up too high in the rear.
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                          Modifications : Legal Tint ,Rear Eibach Springs, Front + Rear Koni FSD Dampers

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pass2093 View Post
                            Hi, I’m located on the Northern Beaches in Sydney. I don’t want to be seen as advertising here but I’m genuinely willing to assist group members with there suspension requirements.

                            I have a 132 wagon as my daily drive, a change of just the rear springs made the world of difference in driving dynamics for me, as I found the vehicle to sit up too high in the rear.
                            got it, fair enough, i did not want to impose or presume anything......

                            as mentioned i have a 206r....was thinking of just the front springs and possibly rear sway bar, i really dont necessarily want the front that low, but always felt the look and the feel just comes across as the front being too high, and then overall tracking and body roll, even in sport mode just has not translated / compared to the 'old' R36 we had for 8 years...even at the end it still handled brilliantly

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Pass2093 View Post
                              Hey mate, just saw your post as I was searching for information on my Passat. I work at Eibach here in Australia give me a call during business hours I’ll look after you.
                              thanks dude - i'll send u a PM
                              MY17 Superb 162TSI, Business Grey, Tech+Comfort Pack, APR ECU+TCU Stg 1, SLA, Rieger Splitter + Side Skirts, Eibach Pro-Kit Springs, Hardrace Swaybar, TPMS
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