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  • #31
    Originally posted by dArK5HaD0w View Post
    being the same parts bin and tech as the Passat, this from the manual of my Superb (MY17).....

    what ACC can do:-
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]33875[/ATTACH]


    Infotainment Setting for Lane Assist (LA) and Adaptive Lane Guidance (ALG):-
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]33876[/ATTACH]


    Lane Assist Limitation:-
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]33877[/ATTACH]


    Adaptive Lane Guidance (ALG):-
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]33878[/ATTACH]


    ALG Conditions:-
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]33879[/ATTACH]


    Traffic Jam Assist (TJA):-
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]33880[/ATTACH]
    Thanks, I am aware of how TJA works as it was a major reason for considering a superb since it's not available on Passat. I am however happy with the new ACC that can stop and start with traffic, don't need self steering. Based on the above it seems maybe my ALG needs checking due to the constant weaving.

    Cheers
    Karl


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    • #32
      Originally posted by Jondalar View Post
      Based on the above it seems maybe my ALG needs checking due to the constant weaving.
      i'm assuming u have both "Lane Assist" and "Adaptive Land Guidance" options ticked/active/on in your Infotainment settings.

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      • #33
        I had the lane assist and ALG turned on over the weekend and whilst I thought it worked well it wasn't as good as the xc90 kit that I drove around Europe in last year. I decided to turn it off and save it for long distance highway use only.

        Having said that the Wolfie has such beautiful steering it would be a shame to dumb it down
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        • #34
          Originally posted by dArK5HaD0w View Post
          i'm assuming u have both "Lane Assist" and "Adaptive Land Guidance" options ticked/active/on in your Infotainment settings.
          Hi Darkshadow,

          The options on my Passat are similar but I don't have the top two lines. I have a line for Lane Departure Assist and below that a line for Adaptive lane guidance. When the ALG is off the car still corrects the steering when speed is over 65 km/hr and the position in the lane gets close to either line marking. The rest of the time it doesn't seem to interfere with the steering. With ALG ON it works similarly but the steering input seems to be constant, you can take your hands off the wheel and the car maintains it's position in the lane, of course complaining after about 13 seconds. What I'm concerned about is that when holding the steering wheel the car moves from one side of the lane to the other very gently, as though is isn't happy about being in the centre. This is without me giving any steering input. The indication for being too close to one side comes on, then goes off and the other comes on.

          This is what's in the manual:
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          Adaptive lane guidance (depending on vehicle equipment)

          [COLOR=#000000 !important]The adaptive lane guidance system detects the preferred position in a lane and keeps the vehicle in this position.

          [COLOR=#000000 !important]Adaptive lane guidance is switched on and off in the Driver assistance menu in the Infotainment system ⇒ Operation and display in Infotainment system .[/COLOR]
          [/COLOR]
          System limits

          [COLOR=#000000 !important]Use the lane keeping system only on motorways and good main roads.

          [COLOR=#000000 !important]The system is not active under the following conditions:[/COLOR]
          • Vehicle speed is less than 60 km/h (35 mph).


          • Lane keeping system has not detected any lane markings or lane boundaries.

          [COLOR=#000000 !important]Cheers,
          Karl[/COLOR]

          [/COLOR]
          MY18 Passat Alltrack Wolfsberg (white) darkest legal tint (SOLD), 2014 Golf 110 TDI Highline (sold after DM Flywheel issues), now 2021 RAV4 Cruiser Hybrid, 2020 C-HR Koba Hybrid

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          • #35
            If adaptive lane guidance was active and it was weaving down the road I would be a bit concerned since ALG is supposed to learn and replicate your driving style...

            Lane assist will bounce from while ALG should keep the vehicle roughly in the centre or where ever you usually place your car. When ALG is active and working (above 60kmh) the road symbol lights up green but reverts to orange below the speed threshold or when it encounters markings it can't read or corners that are too tight.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Jondalar View Post
              Hi Darkshadow,

              The options on my Passat are similar but I don't have the top two lines. I have a line for Lane Departure Assist and below that a line for Adaptive lane guidance. When the ALG is off the car still corrects the steering when speed is over 65 km/hr and the position in the lane gets close to either line marking. The rest of the time it doesn't seem to interfere with the steering. With ALG ON it works similarly but the steering input seems to be constant, you can take your hands off the wheel and the car maintains it's position in the lane, of course complaining after about 13 seconds. What I'm concerned about is that when holding the steering wheel the car moves from one side of the lane to the other very gently, as though is isn't happy about being in the centre. This is without me giving any steering input. The indication for being too close to one side comes on, then goes off and the other comes on.
              the first two lines are in relation to the Front Assist settings.

              yeah, i'm not sure about ur ALG active behaviour.
              mine behaves as expected, and is quiet good, even with bending roads, and slow creeping traffic speeds. it will keep the car steady in the lane.

              with or without ACC active.
              if i have ACC active, ALG will work at any speed. Hence TJA becoming active.
              if i don't have ACC active, ALG will only works at speeds above 65 km/h.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Jondalar View Post
                Hi Darkshadow,

                What I'm concerned about is that when holding the steering wheel the car moves from one side of the lane to the other very gently, as though is isn't happy about being in the centre. This is without me giving any steering input. The indication for being too close to one side comes on, then goes off and the other comes on.
                I've noticed that when the road widens a bit before becoming 2 lanes it will try to keep left eg a single lane exit coming off Citylink splits to 2 for upcoming left and right turn lanes - while it gently tugs slightly left I override it by maintaining to steer right.
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                • #38
                  I have an MY18 206 wagon, below 65km the lane guidance stops working. ACC will operate down to 30km/h and stop-start as long as I'm only stopped for a few seconds (approx 15).

                  Doesn't appear TJA is in the MY18 206's.

                  OP:- The lane assist should keep the car in the centre of the lane. If yours is roaming side to side, sounds like it's a trip to the dealership to get it fixed/reset.
                  MY18 206 TSI WAGON

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                  • #39
                    Pete you will find that the ACC still works if stopped longer, you will get an ACC ready message and all you need is a gentle press on the accelerator and it's off again under ACC control.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Jondalar View Post
                      Pete you will find that the ACC still works if stopped longer, you will get an ACC ready message and all you need is a gentle press on the accelerator and it's off again under ACC control.
                      With ACC on - if stopped for 3 secs or less, the car will automatically resume/accelerate if the traffic ahead moves on.
                      otherwise, if stopped for more than 3 secs - as u said, a gentle tap on the accelerator, or pull the cruise control stalk to resume (accelerate).
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                      • #41
                        Hmm, I may have gone into the coding for the front assist module and changed something to get the different options in the menu with obdeleven

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                        • #42
                          Thought I had TJA, but didn't.

                          The below was just the Passat discussion

                          VCDS/OBDEleven enable traffic jam assist?

                          Was I bit confusing
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Pete the Pomme View Post
                            I have an MY18 206 wagon, below 65km the lane guidance stops working. ACC will operate down to 30km/h and stop-start as long as I'm only stopped for a few seconds (approx 15).

                            Doesn't appear TJA is in the MY18 206's.

                            OP:- The lane assist should keep the car in the centre of the lane. If yours is roaming side to side, sounds like it's a trip to the dealership to get it fixed/reset.
                            This confuses people, LANE ASSIST is only a warning that the car is getting too close to the lane boundaries, ACTIVE LANE GUIDANCE sometimes called DYNAMIC LANE GUIDANCE actively keeps the car between the lane boundaries. LANE ASSIST causes the car to ping pong between the lines if the driver does not take over control. TJA cannot be had without ALG but can be activated with VCDS, TJA cannot be activated by VCDS alone.

                            Someone needs to do a video of this as every video now up on YT is wrong, misleading or deficient in explanation.
                            Last edited by Ozsko; 01-05-2018, 07:37 PM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Ozsko View Post
                              This confuses people, LANE ASSIST is only a warning that the car is getting too close to the lane boundaries, ACTIVE LANE GUIDANCE sometimes called DYNAMIC LANE GUIDANCE actively keeps the car between the lane boundaries. LANE ASSIST causes the car to ping pong between the lines if the driver does not take over control. TJA cannot be had without ALG but can be activated with VCDS, TJA cannot be activated by VCDS alone.

                              Someone needs to do a video of this as every video now up on YT is wrong, misleading or deficient in explanation.
                              They've already concluded as NO TJA IN AUSTRALIA FOR PASSAT.

                              What will a video do?

                              Deficient in explanation and understanding

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                              • #45
                                I was not aware that Passats did not have TJA in the current production, Tiguans, Golfs, Skodas etc have it. A video that had all the information surrounding TJA properly explained and shown would at least remove some of the questions surrounding it. Even if Passats do not have TJA activated it can be done by coding in Australia.

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