Buying first Passat

[Northkit]

Hi All,

I'm looking to replace our 2001 VW Golf Mk4 with a 2008-2010 Passat wagon, was hoping to get some advice on what I should be looking for in terms problem areas know with the Passat.

Budget is 10-15k

Any advice would be appreciated.

Cheers

[tigger73]

Buying first Passat

I’d be steering clear of anything with7 speed DSG.

Either get the diesel or a 6 cylinder both have the more reliable 6 speed DQ250 higher torque gearbox.


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[Amalgam]

Hi,

Welcome to Passat.

I have a 2011 125TDI wagon. Great reliable and economical car.

My only recommendation is to only buy the diesel if you regularly do a long freeway drive ( 30min at 100km/h) to activate the passive DPF regen.

Good luck with the purchase.

[Guest001]

+1 for that I only use mine when I know it will get hot and stay hot for a while

Should get a decent B7 for under $15k going on prices.

Look for a Highline with all the goodies but dont worry about the GPS . It crap.

[FSI 220]

Go the V6 , we need to keep them in the hands of enthusiast forum types... no DPF issues, and they go something handy wet or dry with the 4-motion...[emoji41]



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[sn809]

I am sure others are gonna chip in, try and score a highline.
Go Diesel with 6 speed DSG.
Ensure service done as per schedule if timing belt has been done check water pump/body changed as well.
If you have some one in the area with a VCDS, it might be worthwhile checking soot levels in DPF, other errors.
Check for gasket leak and ask about how much oil is consumed in between service.
Ask the owner their pattern of driving. More highway miles is preferred so dont be afraid of reasonably high mileage as long as service done per schedule.
When you hear a clunk on gear change its a sign of trouble. A hesitant gear itself not as much as there might be a regen going on.
Test driving on road as well as highway.
Good luck

[sn809]

Sorry you dont have to read that twice

[iran]

Hi all, sorry for the kind of newbie in VW/Aus. Why so many bad comments about the DSG 7?

[Guest001]

Hi all, sorry for the kind of newbie in VW/Aus. Why so many bad comments about the DSG 7?

Because of all the problems with the7spd dry box Read through the threads will keep you reading for a month

[kleung]

Hi all, sorry for the kind of newbie in VW/Aus. Why so many bad comments about the DSG 7?

The dry clutch DQ200 7 speed DSG was prone to premature clutch failure, possibly because unlike the DQ250 wet-clutch 6 speed DSG, the DQ200's has no oil bath to help keep the clutchpacks from getting too hot. What this means is if you spend a lot of time in scenarios where the DQ200 has to slip its clutches (ie at walking pace in heavy traffic or using the throttle to hold the vehicle stationary on an incline), it's much easier to overheat the clutch.

There is another 7 speed DSG in VAG's fleet - it's wet clutch and have been fitted to Audis for a while and is now being introduced on the go-fast VWs. Probably not relevant to what you're looking at though.

[iran]

Thank you guys for the explanation. I really thought that the dry gearbox was used only in small/lighter car, such as Golf. I bought this car only 2 weeks ago (still have warranty).

How faith is... I was arriving home, my wife call me saying that she was parking in the garage and at some point she couldn't move after she heard a weird noise. I went there to see what was happening and a tool was flashing in the MFD. I scanned with VCDS and came up these error:

Friday,10,August,2018,19:21:42:40758
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.5 (x64)
Data version: 20180518 DS287.2
Ross-Tech: Home


VIN: License Plate: PASSAT



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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
Control Module Part Number: 0AM 300 052 R HW: 0AM 927 769 D
Component and/or Version: GSG DSG AG7 441 9030
Software Coding: 0000020
Work Shop Code: WSC 04940 001 00001
VCID: 3A55EB7F75C0AF942A-806E
3 Faults Found:

006293 - Functional Restriction due to Pressure Drop
P1895 - 000 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 5
Mileage: 104737 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2020.14.10
Time: 18:34:55

001851 - Gear 6
P073B - 008 - Not Selectable - Intermittent - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 10101000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 104737 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2020.14.10
Time: 18:34:55

001850 - Gear 5
P073A - 000 - Not Selectable - Intermittent - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 10100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 104737 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2020.14.10
Time: 18:34:58

I assume it's ****ed up? Probable yes.

It's a 2011, so... there is no more warranty from the Volkswagen, but should I tow to a VW dealership and try an extension of warranty or any support from VW? The previous owner replaced the clutches around 30.000km on warranty, did all services on VW dealership and this problem appears to be well known by VW.

I am sorry to divert the topic, but I have no idea what do next!

[tigger73]

How faith is... I was arriving home, my wife call me saying that she was parking in the garage and at some point she couldn't move after she heard a weird noise. I went there to see what was happening and a tool was flashing in the MFD. I scanned with VCDS and came up these error:

And this is exactly why you shouldn't buy a 7 speed DSG as was discussed in this thread.

I assume it's ****ed up? Probable yes.

It's a 2011, so... there is no more warranty from the Volkswagen, but should I tow to a VW dealership and try an extension of warranty or any support from VW? The previous owner replaced the clutches around 30.000km on warranty, did all services on VW dealership and this problem appears to be well known by VW.

If you've bought the car from a used car dealer you should have some statutory warranty. I'd be talking to the car yard you purchased the vehicle through first before taking it to VW. The end result may be to take it to VW but the Used car yard should be paying for the repairs not you.

Best to start a separate thread so as not to take this one too off-topic. But yes if you're buying a second-hand car then you don't want to do this.

[Guest001]

We told you but you knew better Read the number of posts that some have put on here and realise there is a wealth of experience withmultiple models. If they tell you something is bad it usually is as you have found out

Also there is little point in asking for advice about buying a car AFTER you have bought it

[kleung]

If you've bought the car from a used car dealer you should have some statutory warranty. I'd be talking to the car yard you purchased the vehicle through first before taking it to VW.

This. Statutory warranty should absolutely apply.

I really thought that the dry gearbox was used only in small/lighter car, such as Golf.

No, the DQ200 was used in the Passat as well - it's more about the ability of the gearbox to handle engine torque than the weight of the vehicle - the DQ200 is designed to handle 250nm.

We told you but you knew better

Also there is little point in asking for advice about buying a car AFTER you have bought it

Now now, be nice. Iran wasn't looking to buy - he's in this thread asking about the DSG. The OP (Northkit) is the one looking for prepurchase advice.

[Guest001]

Thank you guys for the explanation. I really thought that the dry gearbox was used only in small/lighter car, such as Golf. I bought this car only 2 weeks ago (still have warranty).

How faith is... I was arriving home, my wife call me saying that she was parking in the garage and at some point she couldn't move after SNIP.

I am sorry to divert the topic, but I have no idea what do next!

Looks like he has to me