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  • #31
    Originally posted by vanDub View Post
    Most importantly (to me) I cannot be accused of not following manufactures directions regarding chain connections when towing and have VW or Insurer deny any claim if I have a problem / accident (Heaven forbid).
    I suggest that if you really want to avoid any accusations regarding chain connections you look into getting proper load rated chain and shackles - they will be more expensive than what you can buy at Bunnings, but they will also be a lot stronger for a similar size. I buy stainless steel ones from a specialist fastener supplier (a winch equipment place may also be able to supply them). They also look a bit less "agricultural".
    2017 MY18 Golf R 7.5 Wolfsburg wagon (boring white) delivered 21 Sep 2017, 2008 Octavia vRS wagon 2.0 TFSI 6M (bright yellow), 2006 T5 Transporter van 2.5 TDI 6M (gone but not forgotten).

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    • #32
      Originally posted by gregozedobe View Post
      I suggest that if you really want to avoid any accusations regarding chain connections you look into getting proper load rated chain and shackles - they will be more expensive than what you can buy at Bunnings, but they will also be a lot stronger for a similar size. I buy stainless steel ones from a specialist fastener supplier (a winch equipment place may also be able to supply them). They also look a bit less "agricultural".
      I don't disagree with anything you say, but the fact is that the Bunnings chain and shackles I used are still far heavier duty than the cr@p that the manufacturer welded onto my trailer or that used on any caravan I have ever seen. That's why it looks a bit "agricultural". At the end of the day, the chain on the trailer will give way first IMHO.
      Granite Passat sedan TDI (125kw), DSG, beige leather
      Candy White Polo 6R, 66TDI, DSG, no options

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Swallowtail View Post
        So if you specify it on order from the factory does it come factory fitted?
        No, as I understand it, the factory fitted ones are the European market ones only as per attached photo. These ones are not made available for our market so we get a "genuine" kiwi made one that is dealer fitted.
        Last edited by vanDub; 26-02-2009, 10:22 PM.
        Granite Passat sedan TDI (125kw), DSG, beige leather
        Candy White Polo 6R, 66TDI, DSG, no options

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        • #34
          Originally posted by vanDub View Post
          No, as I understand it, the factory fitted ones are the European market ones only as per attached photo. These ones are not made available for our market so we get a "genuine" kiwi made one that is dealer fitted.
          OK... thanks. At least the one on my Mazda has "Mazda" written on it LOL.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Swallowtail View Post
            OK... thanks. At least the one on my Mazda has "Mazda" written on it LOL.
            pretty sure hayman reese makes the mazda ( and about 80% of all brands ) towbar. also the HR branded bars sometimes have a higher capacity as they add extra strengtheners.
            had a passat tdi. now mb c class.

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            • #36
              wow! so much information on tow bars....

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              • #37
                Originally posted by tryingavw View Post
                pretty sure hayman reese makes the mazda ( and about 80% of all brands ) towbar. also the HR branded bars sometimes have a higher capacity as they add extra strengtheners.
                I've seen the HR aftermarket ones for the 6 and they look crap... the one on mine is a proper factory integrated one, Mazda cover plate an' all... whether it's made by HR I'm not sure, but it sure looks better than the aftermarket one I saw on an MPS...

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                • #38
                  Hi All, I picked up my R36 after having the tow bar fitted last friday, towed a trailer with it today, the reverse sensors go off sometimes, then go completely crazy other times, are they supposed to be disabled when a trailer is connected

                  thanks

                  Matthew
                  2010 MY10.5 R36 Wagon, Biscay Blue, RNS510, Dynaudio, Sunroof, towbar, Dynamic Chassis Control, No lazy back door
                  2008 Audi Q7 4.2TDI, Radar Cruise, Lane Assist, Blind Spot Assist, Heated Seats Front & Rear, Alcantara Hood Lining, Wooden Gear knob, Nappa Leather, Plus all the usual V8TDI gear, like 760nm of Torque!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Caddyman View Post
                    Hi All, I picked up my R36 after having the tow bar fitted last friday, towed a trailer with it today, the reverse sensors go off sometimes, then go completely crazy other times, are they supposed to be disabled when a trailer is connected Matthew
                    Yes when they are for a facory fitted towbar but ours are "dealer" fitted. I suspect the problem is that we have the 13 pin Euro electrics reduced by an adapter to 7 pins and one or more of the 13 pins not used are needed for feedback to tell the system that a trailer is fitted.

                    Your only options are to turn the sensor off manually or drive faster than 15 kph where they turn off anyway
                    Granite Passat sedan TDI (125kw), DSG, beige leather
                    Candy White Polo 6R, 66TDI, DSG, no options

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                    • #40
                      I have a vague recollection that euro trailer wiring standards have separate circuits for left and right tail lights (and possibly even L & R brake lights ? ).

                      Oz trailer connection standards only have the one common circuit for both sides, so we don't have the separate circuits the cars electronics are looking for (unless you wire up the trailer the Euro way, but then it won't work for Oz standard trailer connections). Hence the problems with Oz trailer vs Euro car electrics).
                      2017 MY18 Golf R 7.5 Wolfsburg wagon (boring white) delivered 21 Sep 2017, 2008 Octavia vRS wagon 2.0 TFSI 6M (bright yellow), 2006 T5 Transporter van 2.5 TDI 6M (gone but not forgotten).

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                      • #41
                        Oh Yeah,

                        Don't forget if you have an electric tail gate optioned up on your wagon, it will only work if you dissconnect the trailer plug

                        Rotelman
                        Passat MY09 125TDi DSG Wagon - Arctic Blue
                        Tint,Tow,E-Tailgate, Roofbars & Cow,Fog, 12GB SDHC
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                        • #42
                          thanks for your replies.
                          2010 MY10.5 R36 Wagon, Biscay Blue, RNS510, Dynaudio, Sunroof, towbar, Dynamic Chassis Control, No lazy back door
                          2008 Audi Q7 4.2TDI, Radar Cruise, Lane Assist, Blind Spot Assist, Heated Seats Front & Rear, Alcantara Hood Lining, Wooden Gear knob, Nappa Leather, Plus all the usual V8TDI gear, like 760nm of Torque!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by vanDub View Post
                            No, as I understand it, the factory fitted ones are the European market ones only as per attached photo. These ones are not made available for our market so we get a "genuine" kiwi made one that is dealer fitted.
                            You'll probably find the 'Genuine' part has a 50mm (approx 2") ball on it which can be a hassle (certainly here in NZ we generally use the 1 7/8" as standard / not sure about Auz).

                            Our ML Merc came with a genuine bar fitted, which is similar in design to the genuine VW part (all cast as one piece) and it was quite a task to get it legally (for insurance and liability purposes) spun down to 1 7/8"

                            I know other owners have chosen to put on a NZ manufactured bar for this exact reason.
                            2008 R36, Biscay Blue, RNS-510

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