rns 510 video in motion

[levendi001]

hi all
tried a permanent vim unlock however cant get it to work
Has any one any tips or tricks or wanna do it for me?
Thanks

[booba]

try VWnavi.com

[Transporter]

Re: rns 510 video in motion

I can do it for you without removing the unit, over obd2 port.

Sent from my GT-N8000

[revivor]

hi all
tried a permanent vim unlock however cant get it to work
Has any one any tips or tricks or wanna do it for me?
Thanks

Download the custom firmware from kamold available here:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...-77102-12.html make sure you read the warnings about your RNS version first

Works wonderfully on mine.

[Ryan_R]

You can do it without upgrading firmware by burning the contents of one of these ISO images to CD at the slowest write speed possible:

https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B4fMkgZMMU0ub1B6SlJ1MlQtRms/edit

There's also a CD to disable VIM.

[levendi001]

thanks all, downloaded to cd and unlocked it. so excited it WORKS
cheers

[LSM3]

Hi Levendi001, there are quite a few replies with different threads here, which one did you download exactly??

[levendi001]

hi there
manage to download this file and then burned it to cd- insert into rns will read not valid format just wait and will load

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B55TwfUF0rHrZGY3YmZkODYtYjkwYS00M2U1LTlmY2EtMzEyMGRjOWNiOTQy/edit?hl=it&pli=1

hope this helps

[kleung]

hi all
tried a permanent vim unlock however cant get it to work
Has any one any tips or tricks or wanna do it for me?
Thanks

Just a heads up for those applying this mod - having video visible while in motion may be in violation of the road rules in your state. There does seem to be a bit of ambiguity for some states though. I've looked at the National, NSW, Victorian and SA road rules. They all start off the same:

299 Television receivers and visual display units in
motor vehicles

(1) A driver must not drive a motor vehicle that has a television
receiver or visual display unit in or on the vehicle operating
while the vehicle is moving, or is stationary but not parked,
if any part of the image on the screen:

(a) is visible to the driver from the normal driving position;

but they differ in the 'exceptions' clauses. Victoria, SA and the national road rules state:

(2) This rule does not apply to the driver if:

(b) the vehicle is not a motor bike and the visual display unit is, or is part of, a driver’s aid and either –

(i) is an integrated part of the vehicle design;

A "driver's aid" is defined in the road rules as inclusive of:

1 Closed-circuit television security cameras.
2 Dispatch systems.
3 Navigational or intelligent highway and vehicle system equipment.
4 Rearview screens.
5 Ticket-issuing machines.
6 Vehicle monitoring devices.

I would consider the RNS510 to be a visual display unit that is part of a driver's aid and is an integrated part of the vehicle design. So using that interpretation, in theory, it should be legal to enable VIM in Victoria and SA, as the rules only specify that the unit is CAPABLE of being a driver's aid, not that the exception only applies while it is being used as a driver's aid.

However, the wording in NSW's road rules is more specific:

(2) This rule does not apply to the driver if:

(b) the visual display unit is used as a driver’s aid and either:

(i) is an integrated part of the vehicle design,

I would interpret the NSW rules to mean that the exception only applies when the VDU is actively being used as a driver's aid (ie displaying climatronic information, stereo information, reversing camera image/sensors or satnav information)

Is this a loophole for Vic and SA drivers with RNS510s?

Disclaimer: IANAL, and my interpretation of the road rules may not be the right one.

[Brientim]

rns 510 video in motion

I would not take this advice as good advice on the law. It is not performing the function of a drivers aid whilst video other than are reverse camera are playing. There are very logical reason such as trucks that pick up your rubbish that have video screens on whilst in motion and they are considered vehicle monitor devices...

[Guest001]

Using the VDU to watch a video whilst driving would be one of the more stupid things to do.

Basically if you ask you will find that it is only intended to be used for Navigation ( then you should listen, not look )for instructions,

For a reversing camera or as in the case of garbo trucks who use them as a safety device.

They wouldnt be hoofing along at 100kph and watching it either.

One moron on a Caravan forum thought it would be good to be able to watch a movie because he thought the roads were boring.

He certainly got some interesting and down to earth replies. LOL

Dont think a cop would differentiate between a built in one or an aftermarket one if you are caught watching a video on either.

If you are going to post the legal regulations, quote them in full, Not the just the bits that suit as it can twist the meaning completely without the full text.

[kleung]

Using the VDU to watch a video whilst driving would be one of the more stupid things to do.

Agreed wholeheartedly. My post was only intending to point out a section of the road rules which I find to be a bit more ambiguous.

One moron on a Caravan forum thought it would be good to be able to watch a movie because he thought the roads were boring.

He certainly got some interesting and down to earth replies. LOL

Rightly so. And just to be clear - I am absolutely not in any way suggesting that the driver should be watching a video while driving. I was just wanting to gauge reactions and get opinions on what people thought of using VIM for the purposes of say, keeping children in the back seat entertained.

If you are going to post the legal regulations, quote them in full, Not the just the bits that suit as it can twist the meaning completely without the full text.

Respectfully, I don't think I've cut out any bits that are relevant - if you think I have, please feel free to let me know and I'll amend my quotes. I just wanted to keep my post no longer than a short epic... Road Rule 299 is actually quite long, with exceptions pertaining to buses, emergency vehicles, motorcycles etc and 'offence provisions' which simply aren't relevant or do not apply here. Quoting the full text of Road Rule 299 for three states plus the national road rules would only make my previous post even longer than it already is, without actually contributing anything further.

[Guest001]

what people thought of using VIM for the purposes of say, keeping children in the back seat entertained.

r.

Unfortunately if Mr Plod picks you up with VIM going, saying its for the kids in the back may not work as the rule says it should not be visible by the driver.

Not that it is visible but "please sir I wasnt watching it".

Like some I have seen that want an Ipad mount so they can see it For Navigation yes but the rest no.

For about $129 you can buy a pair of screens that hang on the back of the headrests and the kids can watch without you having to see it or even adjust things on the screen if they arent happy.

Some of the things that cause accidents are changing CD's, or DVD's rejigging the GPS or eating breakfast (LOL) etc whilst moving.

The abbreviated bits I meant where you quote parts of a section like 2 i or 3 4 6.

Would be interesting to know what all is in each section.

Or a link to the relevant rules would be good as I havent read them for a while.

Some parts of road rules do contradict themselves but there is only one place to get the correct version.

Off the Law.

The one thing I cant stand is drivers who have to turn and look at the person they are talking to.

Cant they watch the road and talk without having to eyeball the passengers.

I have a friend who I hated travelling with who would even turn around and look at a back seat passenger when talking to them.

After he nearly rearended a parked truck I no longer travel with him, even just down to the shops.

[kleung]

Unfortunately if Mr Plod picks you up with VIM going, saying its for the kids in the back may not work as the rule says it should not be visible by the driver.

Not that it is visible but "please sir I wasnt watching it".

But that's the thing though - aside from NSW, the national, Vic and SA road rules all say that the rule 299(1) does not apply if the VDU is a part of a driver's aid and an integrated part of the vehicle design. The wording of the NSW road rules state that the rule applies unless the VDU is actively being used as a driver's aid.

Some of the things that cause accidents are changing CD's, or DVD's rejigging the GPS or eating breakfast (LOL) etc whilst moving.

...or texting/tweeting/facebooking. Inattention, IOW.

The abbreviated bits I meant where you quote parts of a section like 2 i or 3 4 6.

Fixed.

Or a link to the relevant rules would be good as I havent read them for a while.

My original post already includes links to each of the road rules, either to the PDF (national, SA) or the exact rule (VIC, NSW) where possible:

I've looked at the National, NSW, Victorian and SA road rules.

Some parts of road rules do contradict themselves but there is only one place to get the correct version.

Off the Law.

Those road rules (except for the national rules, which are non-binding) as quoted ARE the law, in their respective states.

[Transporter]

"Actively" being used as a driver's aid. I think that says it all, if you're caught watching the dvd, then you get fine one way or the other, the other would be driving without the due care.

It'd very stupid if the driver was watching the dvd while driving, I hope that everyone on here wants/has that feature only because of the passengers. The last think I want, is someone violate my car just because he/she was watching the dvd while driving.