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  • The most dependable car brands 2010 US

    Revealed: The most dependable car brands

    Come on VW...

  • #2
    Originally posted by mebius9 View Post
    Oh Dear, my next car didn't fare well.

    Surprised to ses jag fare so well. New owner will hopefully rub off on land rover
    Confirmed Global Warming Sceptic. No Longer a VW Owner -Loving my new 2011 Range Rover Sport - bought as VW unable to provide info on the new Toureg despite it being released overseas 12 mths ago. 2008 R36 Wagon, 2006 GTI and 2004 R32 - Gone. Sorry VW, you make great cars but until you improve your customers' experiences you will lose customers

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    • #3
      Weird, my friend owns an old XJ jag and he has heaps of problems

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mebius9 View Post
        Come on VW...
        Don't forget that USDM VWs are mainly sourced from Mehico..., not that that should be any excuse for poor quality.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kleung View Post
          Don't forget that USDM VWs are mainly sourced from Mehico..., not that that should be any excuse for poor quality.
          I always wondered how big a factor origin of assembly is for the reliabilities of the cars...
          Isn't reliability dependent on the engineering quality rather then the assembly quality?

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          • #6
            I'm surprised VW ranked so high.

            Good to see Ford making a comeback.

            Originally posted by sloutch View Post
            Weird, my friend owns an old XJ jag and he has heaps of problems
            lol how old is old? They've definitely lifted in the reliability stakes from what I've read/heard over the past couple of years.
            2000 Mk IV GTI

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kleung View Post
              Don't forget that USDM VWs are mainly sourced from Mehico..., not that that should be any excuse for poor quality.
              A while ago, cousin of mine, in Canada, bought a new MkIII Golf and it was an absolute lemon. It kept going back for all manner of mechanical, electrical and interior faults and she got rid of it as soon as the lease was up and the warranty was about to expire.

              On the way to be traded in, it went into limp mode and her mechanic friend came out to clear the error code so she could drive it to the dealer
              Resident grumpy old fart
              VW - Metallic Paint, Radial Tyres, Laminated Windscreen, Electric Windows, VW Alloy Wheels, Variable Geometry Exhaust Driven Supercharger, Direct Unit Fuel Injection, Adiabatic Ignition, MacPherson Struts front, Torsion Beam rear, Coil Springs, Hydraulic Dampers, Front Anti-Roll Bar, Disc Brakes, Bosch ECU, ABS

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mebius9 View Post
                I always wondered how big a factor origin of assembly is for the reliabilities of the cars...
                Isn't reliability dependent on the engineering quality rather then the assembly quality?
                You'd think so. But engineering isn't going to stop poor QA/QC by poorly trained or lazy local employees.

                A good example is the CL9 Honda Accord Euro and the CM9 Accord (widebody). The interiors are (aside from slight dimension and cosmetic differences) identical. Yet there is a noticeable difference between the build quality of the Japanese-assembled CL9 and the Thai-assembled CM9. Same with the Honda Jazz - production moved from Japan to Thailand in 2004-2005(ish, from memory), and there was a noticeable change in quality there too. Not necessarily more or less reliable, just subtle differences in the way everything is screwed together. That's my take on things, anyway.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kleung View Post
                  You'd think so. But engineering isn't going to stop poor QA/QC by poorly trained or lazy local employees.

                  A good example is the CL9 Honda Accord Euro and the CM9 Accord (widebody). The interiors are (aside from slight dimension and cosmetic differences) identical. Yet there is a noticeable difference between the build quality of the Japanese-assembled CL9 and the Thai-assembled CM9. Same with the Honda Jazz - production moved from Japan to Thailand in 2004-2005(ish, from memory), and there was a noticeable change in quality there too. Not necessarily more or less reliable, just subtle differences in the way everything is screwed together. That's my take on things, anyway.
                  Sure, the interior fittings might be tighter with Jap version but like you said the car may not necessarily be more or less reliable...
                  It's not like they are fitting different water pump on the cars from different factories they are the same components.

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