High grip tyres for Passat TDI.

[mebius9]

I noticed my tyres chirping a lot when accelerating off fast from the lights.
is there a way to improve this some how?
I can ease off the throttle obviously but what's the point if I can't use all that torque??
Any recommendations?

[team_v]

Michelin Pilot Sport PS3's or Goodyear Eagle F1's are meant to be very grippy but cost a bit and will wear quicker.

If you are trying to use the torque then you shouldn't be reving it and giving it a bootfull at the lights as the torque band in the diesel's is short and quite low down in the rev range.

[mebius9]

Michelin Pilot Sport PS3's or Goodyear Eagle F1's are meant to be very grippy but cost a bit and will wear quicker.

If you are trying to use the torque then you shouldn't be reving it and giving it a bootfull at the lights as the torque band in the diesel's is short and quite low down in the rev range.

Thanks for the quick reply and great advice I'll give Goodyear Eagle F1 a go not too bad at $200 each.

[Cro]

You're welcome to the Goodyears Eagle F1 Assymetrics sitting in my shed, they only have around 12,000 kms on them.

Should never have strayed from the Michelin PS2's, and am glad I now run PS3's.

[gareth_oau]

Cro, youre quite rare in that statement, the rest of the world loves the Goodyears (especially in the wet) including virtually every independent tyre test Ive read, what did you manage to do to get so out of favour with them?

[mebius9]

You're welcome to the Goodyears Eagle F1 Assymetrics sitting in my shed, they only have around 12,000 kms on them.

Should never have strayed from the Michelin PS2's, and am glad I now run PS3's.

Damn why do you have to live in Sydney? worst place for motoring...

[Greg Roles]

The Passat TDI has the peaky GT TDI's 125kw 350nm 2.0 engine. In stock form this has a massive torque spike at 2000 rpm, and whilst I love that, it certainly doesn't make for easy or tyre friendly driving. In the heavier Passat I've heard it's better, but I'm afraid it's part of the animal. I do know a retune of the ECU tends to smooth that spike out, and give a more all over whilst giving a more controlled drive. That's something I personally don't want, but for your case this may be an option. Obvioulsy there are warranty concerns there, and with a newer car I'd suggest looking at the top end tunes that are easily turned off and don't register on the ECU's flash counter, and make it obvious to VW that it's been retuned.

[brad]

Thanks for the quick reply and great advice I'll give Goodyear Eagle F1 a go not too bad at $200 each.

you don't want them. They'd be the old model directional F1 eagles. I think team V is talking about the F1 Assymetrics, which most people are fairly happy with.

michelin PS2 or PS3 get great reports too.

Both the Michelin & the Goodyear will be significantly more than $200.

If you want cheap but good the kumho KU31 will give terrific bang for buck. You need to shop around as prices vary by about $50 a tyre. 235/45x17 can be had for about $125 f/b/v but I've been quoted as much as $190

you haven't actually said what size/brand/model you are running at the moment.

[mebius9]

you don't want them. They'd be the old model directional F1 eagles. I think team V is talking about the F1 Assymetrics, which most people are fairly happy with.

michelin PS2 or PS3 get great reports too.

Both the Michelin & the Goodyear will be significantly more than $200.

If you want cheap but good the kumho KU31 will give terrific bang for buck. You need to shop around as prices vary by about $50 a tyre. 235/45x17 can be had for about $125 f/b/v but I've been quoted as much as $190

you haven't actually said what size/brand/model you are running at the moment.

Oh I'm running Dunlop SP Sports 01 235/45R17 at the moment
it's been absolutely terrible at the lights, wheel spin at 2nd gear and the front end bounces off the ground like basketball while at it.
But it's actually fine during cornering I accidentally did 90km/h tight bend turn on Mt Dandenong and it carved through tarmac like ice skate.

[Cro]

Cro, youre quite rare in that statement, the rest of the world loves the Goodyears (especially in the wet) including virtually every independent tyre test Ive read, what did you manage to do to get so out of favour with them?

Do a search on my posts regarding tyres, particulary ones relating to road trips.
I've detailed all my experiences with Dunlop SP01, Michelin PS2, Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric, Michelin PS2 and Michelin PS3 which are the tyres I have gone through since buying the R36.

[gareth_oau]

Brad, the older Eagle F1 GSD3s are still a great tyre, and for $200 theyd be an exceptional bargain

The F1 Asymmetrics are the superceding model and are better, but yes they come at a higher price.

If someone is concerned with budget as well as performance, then I think the GSD3 is still a good choice (and Ive had both, no complaints)

[Rocket36]

When it comes to bloody good value for money, I can't stop recommending the Kumho KU31 Ecstas... A very good all round performance tyre. Not as grippy as others I'll admit, but they perform well enough for most people. And you won't need a 2nd mortgage to buy a set.

[team_v]

When it comes to bloody good value for money, I can't stop recommending the Kumho KU31 Ecstas... A very good all round performance tyre. Not as grippy as others I'll admit, but they perform well enough for most people. And you won't need a 2nd mortgage to buy a set.

This!
I have pushed my APR'd Tig hard and they are doing extremely well.

[brad]

Brad, the older Eagle F1 GSD3s are still a great tyre, and for $200 theyd be an exceptional bargain

The F1 Asymmetrics are the superceding model and are better, but yes they come at a higher price.

If someone is concerned with budget as well as performance, then I think the GSD3 is still a good choice (and Ive had both, no complaints)

I can't agree. I have seen them perform brilliantly on one car & a different size be absolutely abissmal. The main differentiator seem to be whether they were made in Germany or Thailand but even that didn't seem to be consistant. Given they are a bit of a lottery, I'd stay away. They are also a 10 year old tread pattern. For far less dollars you can have Kumho KU31. I like Goodyear tyres (they were my first "real" employer but unfortunately Goodyear has a habit of keeping tyres on the market way past their technological peak.

My list of performance tyres if i was buying at the moment:

• Michelin PS3
• Michelin PS2
• Pirelli PZero (the assymetric one)
• Goodyear F1 Assymetric
• and the budget Kumho KU31

[Maverick]

you don't want them. They'd be the old model directional F1 eagles. I think team V is talking about the F1 Assymetrics, which most people are fairly happy with.

The F1 Asymmetrics are fantastic tyres and perform exceptionally under all circumstances which is important for a road tyre. Definitely going to get them again unless a newer better tyre comes out in the meantime (and this new better tyre is backed up by as many relevant tests like the EVO review using a GTI on a purpose built track).