Dynaudio upgrade

[sloutch]

Hi all,

just wondering if any of you upgraded your systems to Dynaudio? Is it possible to be done after we purchase the car? or we have to include that when we purchase the car new?

And most importantly, how much?

Cheers

[R36]

Hi all,

just wondering if any of you upgraded your systems to Dynaudio? Is it possible to be done after we purchase the car? or we have to include that when we purchase the car new?

And most importantly, how much?

Cheers

Prior to the Passat I usually spent a few thousand upgrading my car's factory stereo with top end aftermarket Alpine/Pioneer systems - but for about $2k this is by far the best system I have had. The VW Dynaudio systems are also designed and tuned specifically for each model (the wagons are even different to the sedans).

Refer to another thread on the same topic: http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f78/optional-dynaudio-how-does-sound-39124.html

You should be able to add it afterwards if you want to pay more for the VW spares 'special' price + fitting!

[Swallowtail]

It's not available from VW as an after purchase fitting. It's built in at the factory, and they dont sell a kit to fit. Mine was ordered with it, didn't get ordered by the dealer, and to fit it they ordered another car with it and were going to rip the two cars apart to swap the gear. Rather than have to wait three months for a 1st yr apprentice to pull apart my car to fit something that probably wouldn't be fitted properly I elected to have them pay for me to fit a decent aftermarket system instead.

[Leagle]

I got the Dynaudio with the CC. I posted my review in the audio section (and a few misc comments elsewhere). Suffice to say that I am extremely pleased at purchasing this as an option. I recently compared it against the stock system in another CC and although the basic unit is quite good, it is still not as clear and definitely lacks the midrange/woofer thump of the Dynaudio. The most impressive things about the Dynaudio is the overall clarity and the power and the fact that it sounds like it has a great subwoofer (though it doesn't!). I also agree that at $2,000 it is great value.

I am not sure whether you can fit one aftermarket but I am sure you could fit something that comes close, though not sure that it will cost as little as $2,000.

[R34]

Actually if you include Luxury Car Tax of 33% the cost is actually $2666

[Rocket36]

Actually if you include Luxury Car Tax of 33% the cost is actually $2666

That's not accurate. LCT only applies to the proportion of the total cost of the car over the threshold so it's not as simple a calculation as 33% of $2000.

[R34]

So when you're adding an option to a car already over the threshold of $57,466 I thought it would be subject to the 33%
I'd love to be wrong though
Say my car cost $67,466 before stamp duty and govt charges then LCT would be 33% of $10,000 approx $3300.
If you added a $2000 option then the LCT would be 33% of $12000 or $3960 an increase of $660 making the $2000 option $2660.
As I said Rocket this is a time I'd love you to prove me wrong as I'm no accountant

[ron]

dont even think of getting this upgrade later. GET IT NOW if you can afford it now. It is one of the best factory offerred system around.
and very well priced. with test CD and an RTA this system really amazed me, its Dynaudio afterall

[Rocket36]

Say my car cost $67,466 before stamp duty and govt charges then LCT would be 33% of $10,000 approx $3300.
If you added a $2000 option then the LCT would be 33% of $12000 or $3960 an increase of $660 making the $2000 option $2660.
As I said Rocket this is a time I'd love you to prove me wrong as I'm no accountant

I never said you were wrong. I said what you were saying wasn't accurate. While I can see how you're working our your figures and I agree with them, the option does not become a $2660 option. The TOTAL cost of the car over the threshold attracts LCT, not individual component. So the option remains a $2000 option but because it makes the total cost of the car $2000 more, the LCT goes up in proportion to it.

The way around it is to do what my dealer did and invoice me separately for the options to keep the LCT down so it's not increased because of options.

[Highlander]

Naughty Naughty

The way around it is to do what my dealer did and invoice me separately for the options to keep the LCT down so it's not increased because of options.

I hope that there is no conscientious taxman that owns a Passat or that reads this forum, although it technically would not be your problem, The LCT is payable by the seller of the vehicle and you may have put the dealer in it. A search through this forum may even tell the taxman where you bought your R36.

From the ATO

If you buy a car with a GST-inclusive value above these LCT
thresholds, you must pay LCT. In general, the value of a car
includes the value of any parts, accessories or attachments
you supplied, or imported at the same time as the car.

WHO IS LIABLE FOR LCT?
You must pay LCT if you:
■ are registered, or required to be registered, for GST, and
■ sell a luxury car.
This includes retailers, wholesalers and manufacturers of cars
and any business which sells a luxury car.

Obviously the seller then recoups the LCT from the buyer of the vehicle by adding it into the purchase price.

But the fact remains, the value of a car
includes the value of any parts, accessories or attachments
you supplied, or imported at the same time as the car. no matter how many invoices you get.

[Rocket36]

Which is exactly why you just different dates on the invoices. (that's not actually how my deal was arranged - but it's one way of doing it)

[Swallowtail]

LOL, and of course they wouldn't see through that when the matter in question is a factory fitted option would they... they did after all come down in the last rain shower.

[Rocket36]

Doesn't matter when they're fitted. They're options and were paid for separately to the car. It's LCT (Luxury Car Tax) not LCAOT (Luxury Car And Options Tax). If I go an buy a factory option tomorrow (which I can if I want to) it's not added to the value of the car, it's separate. Like when I asked about getting Bluetooth the dealer even said they'd order it separately so as not to attract any more LCT since it's such an expensive option.

If people are happy to blindly accept LCT on everything when they don't have to then more fool them. If you simply want to laugh at other people's experiences, well that's your choice - but it's a pretty stupid choice if you ask me.

[Swallowtail]

Yes Rocket..... of course Rocket.

[Highlander]

It does matter

Doesn't matter when they're fitted. They're options and were paid for separately to the car. It's LCT (Luxury Car Tax) not LCAOT (Luxury Car And Options Tax).

If I go an buy a factory option tomorrow (which I can if I want to) it's not added to the value of the car, it's separate. Like when I asked about getting Bluetooth the dealer even said they'd order it separately so as not to attract any more LCT since it's such an expensive option.

If people are happy to blindly accept LCT on everything when they don't have to then more fool them. If you simply want to laugh at other people's experiences, well that's your choice - but it's a pretty stupid choice if you ask me.

LCT legislation says the value of the car is the value at the time the car is supplied including all options and accessories, so unless your factory fitted roof and sat nav were fitted after you actually took delivery of the car then they are included in the value for LCT.

If you buy a factory option tomorrow it will not constitute part of the value for LCT. It will obviously not be part of the initial purchase as it will be purchased almost two years after your purchase ... and it will not be "factory fitted".

There is no choice when the "options" are fitted as part of the build and their value is included in the value for LCT regardless of the number of invoices or the date of those invoices.

If the intention of the numerous differently dated invoices is to deceive and to evade tax then the action is illegal.

Do have to agree with Swallowtail though. Taxman is pretty sophisticated nowadays and your suggested subterfuge would stick out like the proverbial dog's balls.

And if he just happened to drive a fully loaded R36 wagon on which he paid a heap of LCT he may be particularly diligent.

The first thing a tax investigator would do in an audit of a dealer's LCT affairs would be to examine build sheets, orders, sales invoices and dates. There is also a value of the car declared to the RTA for stamp duty/registration purposes and if that is understated could give rise to penalties also. But would be another clue for the tax man.

You might get away with the dealer fitted bluetooth because they could fudge the dates and show that it was fitted after you took delivery of the car (This would involve falsifying both the sales invoice and the dealers workshop records as to when the work was done.

But no worries, it's the dealer who owes the tax. If he chooses to break the law to sell you the vehicle for a cheaper price, that's his choice. He runs the risk of the consequences.