Is it me or the DSG?

[Radius]

Hi everyone,

Been away overseas for a while and have missed the R36 to no end. Has been an absolutely fantastic experience so far.... however I've noted a few issues with the transmission and am hoping to run by the forum team as to whether they're real issues or not
1. Shuddering when reversing up inclines. We have a moderately inclined driveway and attempting to reverse up in with finesse (ie. cautiously) results in noticeable shuddering. Giving it a boot full of revs settles the shudder but not really a great deal more pace so a. Is this shudder typical on part-throttle reversing and b. does the DSG always need a load of revs when reversing up inclines.

2. Intermittent audible thump on upshifting. This tends to occur more on spirited upshifting, and occurs whether in manual or auto modes. This again is more audible rather than felt. It seems particularly noticeable on 1-2 and 2-3 upshifts.

3. Delayed upshifting via paddles. Seem to notice a quarter to half second delay on part-throttle upshifting. It might be me, but this seems less of an issue when using the gearshifter, and shifts are also more immediate via paddles during more spirited driving.

Given recent issues with DSG mechatronics modules, I'm wondering if these issues are anything out of the ordinary that needs chasing up. The car itself is still essentially brandnew with just 2300km on the clock. Thanks everyone!

[apom]

Hi everyone,

Been away overseas for a while and have missed the R36 to no end. Has been an absolutely fantastic experience so far.... however I've noted a few issues with the transmission and am hoping to run by the forum team as to whether they're real issues or not
1. Shuddering when reversing up inclines. We have a moderately inclined driveway and attempting to reverse up in with finesse (ie. cautiously) results in noticeable shuddering. Giving it a boot full of revs settles the shudder but not really a great deal more pace so a. Is this shudder typical on part-throttle reversing and b. does the DSG always need a load of revs when reversing up inclines.

2. Intermittent audible thump on upshifting. This tends to occur more on spirited upshifting, and occurs whether in manual or auto modes. This again is more audible rather than felt. It seems particularly noticeable on 1-2 and 2-3 upshifts.

3. Delayed upshifting via paddles. Seem to notice a quarter to half second delay on part-throttle upshifting. It might be me, but this seems less of an issue when using the gearshifter, and shifts are also more immediate via paddles during more spirited driving.

Given recent issues with DSG mechatronics modules, I'm wondering if these issues are anything out of the ordinary that needs chasing up. The car itself is still essentially brandnew with just 2300km on the clock. Thanks everyone!

Did you get the recent letter from VWA about possible issues on the DSG gearbox. Have search of the threads and you will find all the info there. There was also another thread started on a fairly similar issue!

[Guest0608]

Hi everyone,

Been away overseas for a while and have missed the R36 to no end. Has been an absolutely fantastic experience so far.... however I've noted a few issues with the transmission and am hoping to run by the forum team as to whether they're real issues or not
1. Shuddering when reversing up inclines. We have a moderately inclined driveway and attempting to reverse up in with finesse (ie. cautiously) results in noticeable shuddering. Giving it a boot full of revs settles the shudder but not really a great deal more pace so a. Is this shudder typical on part-throttle reversing and b. does the DSG always need a load of revs when reversing up inclines.

2. Intermittent audible thump on upshifting. This tends to occur more on spirited upshifting, and occurs whether in manual or auto modes. This again is more audible rather than felt. It seems particularly noticeable on 1-2 and 2-3 upshifts.

3. Delayed upshifting via paddles. Seem to notice a quarter to half second delay on part-throttle upshifting. It might be me, but this seems less of an issue when using the gearshifter, and shifts are also more immediate via paddles during more spirited driving.

Given recent issues with DSG mechatronics modules, I'm wondering if these issues are anything out of the ordinary that needs chasing up. The car itself is still essentially brandnew with just 2300km on the clock. Thanks everyone!

Take it to your local dealer, they can check for faults, if none, check software version is correct and update if required, also check mechatronics to see if it needs changing if cant be updated to current software and if none of that they can re-adapt the mechatronics via basic settings and then roadtest after to see if anything has changed. Hope this helps, your local dealer will be able to do these things.................VW......................... ...

[Rocket36]

Did you get the recent letter from VWA about possible issues on the DSG gearbox. Have search of the threads and you will find all the info there. There was also another thread started on a fairly similar issue!

That had nothing to do with the symptoms he's described though.

To the OP, the audible "thump" is normal... I love the noise the exhaust makes!

[brodzta_GTI]

sounds like it might need the mechatronics adapted.

[2muchcoffeeman]

Similar behaviour to the A3 I had. Mechatronics was replaced.

[Radius]

Take it to your local dealer, they can check for faults, if none, check software version is correct and update if required, also check mechatronics to see if it needs changing if cant be updated to current software and if none of that they can re-adapt the mechatronics via basic settings and then roadtest after to see if anything has changed. Hope this helps, your local dealer will be able to do these things.................VW......................... ...

Vwtech, thanks for the advice. I incidentally contacted my service centre and they advised that my car is not on the official re-call list. Is it only the cars on that list that should be affected or is it largely irrelevant? Does anyone know how this list was arbitrarily generated? By build date???

Thanks to everyone for their input. Sounds like my set of symptoms aren't normal DSG behaviour so I'll get it looked over!

[Rocket36]

Radius as others have mentioned it could be the mechatronics mondule that needs to be replaced under warranty. This is not part of the recall.

[Radius]

Radius as others have mentioned it could be the mechatronics mondule that needs to be replaced under warranty. This is not part of the recall.

Ahhhh.... separate issue. Cheers. Thought the mechatronics was the recall issue.... so it's a temp sensor instead?

[Rocket36]

That's right... The temp sensor potential issue is the recall. Your symptoms could be mechatronics module related.

[gregozedobe]

That's right... The temp sensor potential issue is the recall.

I thought the recall was now temp sensor and/or software upgrade. The initial recall was temp sensor only, but then they discovered a software bug relating to the temp sensor as well.

[nivek]

2. Intermittent audible thump on upshifting. This tends to occur more on spirited upshifting, and occurs whether in manual or auto modes. This again is more audible rather than felt. It seems particularly noticeable on 1-2 and 2-3 upshifts.

3. Delayed upshifting via paddles. Seem to notice a quarter to half second delay on part-throttle upshifting. It might be me, but this seems less of an issue when using the gearshifter, and shifts are also more immediate via paddles during more spirited driving.

I get these two symptoms on my MY10 R36 also (Aug 2009 build).

I always thought the "thumping" sound is normal as I also heard it on the demo car I test drove.

And mine also has the delay on upshifts (I use manual mode 99% of the time). I'm trying to work out if there a certain rev range it happens in, but so far it seems pretty random.

So you guys are saying these symptoms are not normal? Anyone else experience these issues?

[Pana]

I thought it was normal for the DSG to be a bit more "relaxed" during part throttle/no throttle shifts up or down.....

I've noticed that with light throttle opening it will slur the changes like a traditional auto - its only when you're giving it a bit of a bootful that it will shift quicker....

Love the F1 style thump while changing up!!

[Rocket36]

I thought the recall was now temp sensor and/or software upgrade. The initial recall was temp sensor only, but then they discovered a software bug relating to the temp sensor as well.

OK to be REALLY specific. The recall is a software UPDATE that means the chance (as unlikely as it is) of the DSG temp being reported as something higher than it actually is, and therefore going into safe mode, gets fixed.