iphone and bluetooth

[graymalkin]

iPhone 3G and Bluetooth - thanks for your info

Hi Swallowtail,

Just wanted to thank you up front for your clear and accurate information about this. Took delivery of a new VW Tiguan yesterday (from a Brisbane dealer) only to discover that the Premium Bluetooth that they assured me would work with the iPhone 3G, was not installed because they only **just** discovered otherwise. This is quite frustrating as I have asked many times about this and you'd think that they would know all about this issue and provide accurate information for their customers. So I'm glad I found your post with the information about the Fiscon unit.

I notice that earlier in this thread, gripmoto said that his Premium Bluetooth is '100% working" with the iPhone. I wonder what is going on here? I wonder which unit he has ...

Also, do you have the MDI/ipod adapter? When I plug the iPhone to it I get a message saying something along the lines of "accessory is not compatible with the iphone please switch into airplane mode". It also does not charge the phone and I suspect this may have something to do with it.

What do you do with regards to charging your iPhone in the car?

Sorry for some many questions.

Thanks in advance.

G.

The advanced Bluetooth kit needs an RSAP capable phone, which the iPhone is not. Google "iphone rsap"...

The basic VW bluetooth isn't worth the money, as it doesn't integrate with anything in the car (i.e. RNS510, dash display), and is very limited functionality. Don't bother.

I have ordered my R36 w/o Bluetooth and am planning on fitting one of the Fiscon units (www.kufatec.de). I have also ordered the MDI unit to enable full iPod functionality for my iPhone with the RNS510 (artist display, etc).

EDIT - it's this one that I am getting: http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_i...VW--Skoda.html

It also supports A2DP, which the iPhone will from software 3.0, due later this year, so it will then also play audio over Bluetooth.

[Swallowtail]

Hi Swallowtail,

Just wanted to thank you up front for your clear and accurate information about this. Took delivery of a new VW Tiguan yesterday (from a Brisbane dealer) only to discover that the Premium Bluetooth that they assured me would work with the iPhone 3G, was not installed because they only **just** discovered otherwise. This is quite frustrating as I have asked many times about this and you'd think that they would know all about this issue and provide accurate information for their customers. So I'm glad I found your post with the information about the Fiscon unit.

I notice that earlier in this thread, gripmoto said that his Premium Bluetooth is '100% working" with the iPhone. I wonder what is going on here? I wonder which unit he has ...

Also, do you have the MDI/ipod adapter? When I plug the iPhone to it I get a message saying something along the lines of "accessory is not compatible with the iphone please switch into airplane mode". It also does not charge the phone and I suspect this may have something to do with it.

What do you do with regards to charging your iPhone in the car?

Sorry for some many questions.

Thanks in advance.

G.

Graymalkin - no probs... just as well they saved you the money LOL... the VW supplied Premium system won't work with an iPhone. Have a look here http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newf...ad.php?t=31461 for more info on options. Whilst it's talking about the RNS510 it basically applies regardless, although without the RNS510 or RCD510 I don't think you get on screen display, but just display in the MFD (in the instrument panel).

Austral should know better, as it is a conversation that has been had with them many times, including with me...

Can you please tell me a couple more pieces of information - do you have the iPod adapter or an MDI? They are different... The MDI does charge the iPhone, even with the message, which is normal for a lot of non-Apple accessories I believe. You just select NO to the flight mode question, and it charges anyway, and works fine. Also what head unit / stereo do you have? And is your MFD display red or white?

I will be selling my Fiscon shortly, as I have ordered one of the Skoda Bluetooth units (as it has voice control, which I decided I would like).

Happy to assist you in getting it sorted / fitted if I can.

[gripmoto]

I had I beleive the UHV low kit that came from Harding Performance. The first one worked with the iphone 100%, but didn't intergrate with the MFD. I then dumped the iphone and went to a BB 9000. The 2nd unit from Harding still didn't work with the MFD so I ditched that as well now have the Fiscon unit it's all good except phonebook sorting is weird! Don't know if it works with the iphone, can't see why not.

Hi Swallowtail,

Just wanted to thank you up front for your clear and accurate information about this. Took delivery of a new VW Tiguan yesterday (from a Brisbane dealer) only to discover that the Premium Bluetooth that they assured me would work with the iPhone 3G, was not installed because they only **just** discovered otherwise. This is quite frustrating as I have asked many times about this and you'd think that they would know all about this issue and provide accurate information for their customers. So I'm glad I found your post with the information about the Fiscon unit.

I notice that earlier in this thread, gripmoto said that his Premium Bluetooth is '100% working" with the iPhone. I wonder what is going on here? I wonder which unit he has ...

Also, do you have the MDI/ipod adapter? When I plug the iPhone to it I get a message saying something along the lines of "accessory is not compatible with the iphone please switch into airplane mode". It also does not charge the phone and I suspect this may have something to do with it.

What do you do with regards to charging your iPhone in the car?

Sorry for some many questions.

Thanks in advance.

G.

[DJC]

I will be selling my Fiscon shortly, as I have ordered one of the Skoda Bluetooth units (as it has voice control, which I decided I would like).

Where can I find info on these???

[Swallowtail]

Raise your eyes 2 posts to the post of mine you quoted... you will see a link... click on it...

[DJC]

Raise your eyes 2 posts to the post of mine you quoted... you will see a link... click on it...

You legend

[Rocket36]

So Skodas get a better BT system than VWs? Or is it just cheaper? I'm confused...

[DJC]

I'm thinking the Fiscon is a much easier and proven option, but just doesn't have voice activation which I can live without.

The eBay ones from Poland look good but I just don't know about them, the price is good however and they are P'N'P!

[Swallowtail]

Kris you are far from alone there... it is confusing! VAG produce a BT kit that is colloquially known as the Skoda kit, or the 9w3, or the 729A, 729B, 729C or 729D. They don't sell it here, which is weird, cos it's probably the best all-round BT package for VWs. Have a read through the post I've linked to a few posts up - that should shed some light...

Dcashion - functionally once the Fiscon or Skoda kits are installed they work identically, with the exception that the Skoda kit gives you voice activated dialling... install is fundamentally the same for each, although the Skoda kit coming with a genuine mike probably lends itself to you placing the mike "properly" in the ceiling center console, where my Fiscon's mike is just neatly placed on the steering column. And yes, the Polish ones are now coming with a PnP harness. One potential concern is that some people's PnP harness has only been mono wired, so if you want to play BT audio (A2DP) it will be pretty ordinary unless you mod the PnP harness.

[DJC]

Mate i'm glad you are up to-date on all this as it can easily do your head in!

To your knowledge is the Skoda available as a PNP yet?

[Swallowtail]

Yes, there are polish sellers on ebay selling them complete with PnP harness for about AU$500 - $600. I just bought one... Not here yet though.

[richdave]

To your knowledge is the Skoda available as a PNP yet?

WTF is PNP.. plug and play??

[Swallowtail]

WTF is PNP.. plug and play??

LOL.. yes. Originally you had to splice them into the wiring harness at the back of the stereo. The PnP ones come with a a quadlock socket at one end of the harness and a quadlock plug at teh other end, so you take the big quadlock connector out of the back of the stereo and just plug the new bit inline.

[DJC]

So which part number am I looking for is it the one ending in D or A or C.

From what I can understand the cheaper ones are the 1Z0 035 729A and 1Z0 035 729D this is because they are superseding them for the 1Z0 035 729C...true?

[DJC]

I think this might help to understand their production runs and EOL of the different part numbers.

http://www.my-gti.com/1080/volkswagen-skoda-bluetooth-model-differences