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  • 3.2 V6 Launch Control?

    Can someone put me out of my misery and confirm that L/C is not enabled on the 3.2?

    I had a go a while back, but couldn't work out if i was doing it right.

    Is L/C on the R36? I was told clutch(es) could not handle the grunt, seeings that (unlike Golf GTI) 4WD would make the clutch take all the load ie. No wheelspin.

    P.S. My cars in the shop at the moment (don't ask!), so can't experiment with L/C atm...
    RIP! 2007 Passat 3.2 4Motion Black Sedan | 19"s | AVC-9000 | Audi A3 Sportback 2.0TFSIQ

  • #2
    If you're asking if the R32 has L/C, it does.

    Foot on the brake, shift into S, disable ESP, other foot on the throttle and it should build the revs to 3000rpm. Foot off the brake and bye bye.

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    • #3
      Sorry Purgi, old mans' forum this one!

      Talking about the 'practical' 3.2 V6.
      RIP! 2007 Passat 3.2 4Motion Black Sedan | 19"s | AVC-9000 | Audi A3 Sportback 2.0TFSIQ

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      • #4
        Dont think they do, My old mans one doesnt like it when you try.

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        • #5
          the R36 definitely has launch control. i have one and it is even in the manual

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          • #6
            I wonder if there is a mod to enable it.

            Does anyone know if you can get at the DSG Mechatronics unit thru VagCom or something?
            RIP! 2007 Passat 3.2 4Motion Black Sedan | 19"s | AVC-9000 | Audi A3 Sportback 2.0TFSIQ

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 3Putt View Post
              Sorry Purgi, old mans' forum this one!

              Talking about the 'practical' 3.2 V6.
              Oops, sorry dude.

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              • #8
                launch control

                Originally posted by Mattblack View Post
                the R36 definitely has launch control. i have one and it is even in the manual
                My eyesight must be going on me. I also have an R36, but can't find the section in the manual where it explains launch control. Can you tell me where it is in the manual.

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                • #9
                  yeah i had the same problem. It is located in the additional section at the back of the books specifically relating to the R36. Cant recall the exact page. i will get it out of the car and let you know.

                  It does have the same proceedure as the R32. basically disable ESP, hold foot on brake pedal, accelerator pedal, wait till revs build to preset revs and let got of brakes

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                  • #10
                    Jealous!

                    OK boys, you're really startin to make me jealous now!

                    It looks like LC is definitely not on my car, so tell me, how much fun is it?

                    I've found some talk about LC 'upgrades' on the forums. VWofAmerica has put a tech service bulletin out for some Jetta's, Golfs that enables LC.

                    Good news indeed! At least its something flashable. Apparently you just have to have the right 'module' in the mechatronics unit that will take the flash.

                    Haven't found anything on the Passat though. DOH! I'm pretty sure its because the Passat in the US didn't come out with DSG, except for R36 now, of course (which has it anyway).

                    Maybe we have to start lobbying VWofAustralia for a mod?

                    Just because the car's heavier than the R32 is no excuse for not having it available. The drivetrain would still be under exactly the same stress as the R32 (since they have same torque), the beast would just accelerate slower.

                    So come on VW, give me my launch control!
                    RIP! 2007 Passat 3.2 4Motion Black Sedan | 19"s | AVC-9000 | Audi A3 Sportback 2.0TFSIQ

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 3Putt View Post
                      OK boys, you're really startin to make me jealous now!

                      It looks like LC is definitely not on my car, so tell me, how much fun is it?

                      I've found some talk about LC 'upgrades' on the forums. VWofAmerica has put a tech service bulletin out for some Jetta's, Golfs that enables LC.
                      Meh. I used it once just to see what it was like. Yeah, it did the job but I haven't even thought of using it since. What surprised me when I did it was once you take your foot off the brake, it felt like about a 2 second pause (I don't know exactly how long it was but it felt like an eternity when you're expecting to get thrown into the back of your seat..) before it took off.

                      However, I used it when it was 1500km's and in pouring rain (it almost rained non-stop from the day I picked it up to the 1500km point when I said I would give it a shot). Absolutely no noticeable wheelspin and took off like a rocket.

                      If you're going to take it to the strip, it'd be something you'd have to compensate for - letting the brake off a little earlier before the tree goes green.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Purgi View Post
                        Meh. I used it once just to see what it was like. Yeah, it did the job but I haven't even thought of using it since. What surprised me when I did it was once you take your foot off the brake, it felt like about a 2 second pause (I don't know exactly how long it was but it felt like an eternity when you're expecting to get thrown into the back of your seat..) before it took off.

                        However, I used it when it was 1500km's and in pouring rain (it almost rained non-stop from the day I picked it up to the 1500km point when I said I would give it a shot). Absolutely no noticeable wheelspin and took off like a rocket.

                        If you're going to take it to the strip, it'd be something you'd have to compensate for - letting the brake off a little earlier before the tree goes green.
                        Most likely feels a little slow because of the clutches slipping a bit at the start (to maintain the revs). If it did it from a higher rpm you'd probably be likely to get wheelspin and a chance of bogging down.

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                        • #13
                          Not quite DimMy, higher revs will lessen the chances of bogging down.

                          Also, not much chance of wheelspin with 4WD and 'only' 350Nm. Need more like 500Nm to get some burning rubber in the dry.

                          Now burning clutch, thats a different story. My guess is that 3000rpm was chosen to avoid clutch slip, and to prolong clutch / drivetrain life.

                          My old WRX didn't like me dropping the clutch from above about 4000rpm. There's nothing like that burning clutch smell when you stop at the next set of lights!
                          RIP! 2007 Passat 3.2 4Motion Black Sedan | 19"s | AVC-9000 | Audi A3 Sportback 2.0TFSIQ

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 3Putt View Post
                            Not quite DimMy, higher revs will lessen the chances of bogging down.

                            Also, not much chance of wheelspin with 4WD and 'only' 350Nm. Need more like 500Nm to get some burning rubber in the dry.

                            Now burning clutch, thats a different story. My guess is that 3000rpm was chosen to avoid clutch slip, and to prolong clutch / drivetrain life.

                            My old WRX didn't like me dropping the clutch from above about 4000rpm. There's nothing like that burning clutch smell when you stop at the next set of lights!
                            Should've explained myself better. I agree that there's not much chance, BUT - if you do launch from say 4500-5000rpm, you may (depending on how grippy the surface is) get a tiny about of wheelspin and then the car will regain grip and bog down. It's either that or slip the clutch to the keep the revs up OR have enough power to keep the wheels spinning a bit, which would be very difficult with a 50/50 split, if you had something like 30/70 it'd be easier. As you said, 3k was probably chosen as a balance of slip/life.
                            Last edited by DiMmY; 24-08-2008, 09:46 PM.

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