Two Fault Codes in Scanner - 08213 and 00258

[Deep Blue]

2009 Passat CC 2.0 TDI

Car seems to be running okay, but two fault codes showed up together on the Foxwell scanner today - just wondering whether they are spurious (transitory) or how I should proceed from here to investigate/rectify?

08213 Intake Manifold Runner Position Sensor / Switch Circuit Range / Performance

00258 Mass or Volume Air Flow Circ. Low Input


Any suggestions/thoughts?

[Umai Naa!!]

Clear them out, and see if they come back after a drive.

The intake manifold runner one probably will. There's a fix for it through DieselGeek, where you fit a stopper to the runner flap actuator.

[Deep Blue]

Thanks Umai - that's a relief! Just had the oil cooler leak fixed so hoping for a trouble-free run for a little while.

I couldn't clear the first fault (08213) - won't erase for some reason; the second fault (0025 cleared fine. I have a Foxwell NT510 scanner.

As I said, was driving with no problems, so I'll go for another drive tomorrow and see if 00258 comes back again.

Will also check out DieselGeek.

What is it basically saying anyway - this intake manifold runner?

[Deep Blue]

Thanks Umai - checked out dieselgeek.com! I think I seen what you were mentioning: P2015 Manifold Fix!!!

Thanks again my friend - you are a fountain of information!

[Deep Blue]

With this Intake Manifold Runner fault (8213) I'm going to buy the stopper/bracket from Dieselgeek as you suggest. Just interested in the meantime though (might be a while waiting for the bracket) - can this issue eventually/quickly lead to a bigger and more expensive issue, or is it something people often just live with/ignore?

[Deep Blue]

Looks like the bracket is easy to install! Might take a while to get here though (from USA)!

Is there any significant down-side (apart from error codesappearing again) if the bracket isn't installed?

[Deep Blue]

Okay, ordered bracket from dieselgeek.com - USD80.39 (includes delivery to Australia) - looks easy to install! Guess it's best to take a proactive approach when it comes to maintenance!

Delivery up to 8 weeks due to COVID-19 delays.

[Umai Naa!!]

The bracket is a lot cheaper than a whole manifold, and will last longer.

[Deep Blue]

Will be installing hopefully sometime in the next 6-8 weeks. Thanks for your help!

[Deep Blue]

Just waiting now for the bracket to arrive.

The fault code (08213) came back this morning on a 5km drive. Won't need to use the car that often, but I presume I can likely drive it now and again (once or twice a week - not long trips) until I receive the bracket in the mail? Obviously with COVID-10 the bracket delivery from the USA is significantly delayed.

[Deep Blue]

Okay, been doing a bit of reading - glad I ordered the bracket, and in the meantime if I drive the vehicle now and then I don't really expect any damage/issues (problem only arose just last week for the first time).

[Deep Blue]

Had to drive the Passat CC yesterday for a short trip - bracket from Diesel Geek is on its way (left San Antonio and now in Chicago!). Hopefully the part arrives next week some time. Anyway, just wanted to relate the following - drove the Passat CC TDI yesterday and noticed when accelerator was depressed at low speed there was a flat spot for a second or two before the engine responded. I assume this will disappear once I install the new Diesel Geek bracket?

[Deep Blue]

Bracket arrived yesterday from DieselGeek in San Antonio, Texas - took 20 days in total, 10 days to get from Sydney to Melbourne. Not to worry, Jim at DieselGeek warned me that COVID freight delays were significant.

Installed fairly easily - took a bit longer than on the video (three bolts holding the motor in place were very tight for some reason and I had to use a ratchet to free them up rather than the torx screwdriver).

Lost the little (return) spring on the motor when I tried to wriggle it out - spring fell down onto the engine underbelly plastic cover. I guess I'll recover it next time I do an oil change; I was reliably told the spring is superfluous!

[Umai Naa!!]

The spring is a pain to reinstall.

I had to use pliers and a screwdriver to get it back on.

[Deep Blue]

Was doing well and it just fell off at the motor side as I wriggled the motor out - didn't have hemostats like Jim in the DieselGeek video. Anyway, Jim at DieselGeek said the spring doesn't do anything!? All going well now and will recover the spring next oil change.

Thanks for putting me on to DieselGeek!