APR Stage II + CAI + APR Exhaust System

[MGV]

... load the APR Stg2 file, which incidentally just "fixes" any O2 sensor issues with the downpipe. It does not actually make any other changes to the ECU maps.

And there you have a Stg2 Tiguan.

I hadn't actually ever heard this before, & if correct then looks as though i may have a Stg2 !! Stg1 file loaded April 2011, Carbonio intake 2013, 42DD downpipe 2014. No further software update & no O2 sensor issues (well, no CEL or error codes logged). Still very impressed with seat-of-pants-dyno results, verified regularly!

Also happy to report no clutch issues, 111 000 km's.

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

LaNOS, best to see how you go with the v2.xx upgrade first for stage 1, torque increase is noticeable including down low...the horrid flat spot under 2k rpm is gone and it is peppy throughout the rev range. If you have access to a vbox or gtech it would be good to get a before and after 0-100km/h time.

Also the other benefit of the DQ500 7 speed DSG has been the launch control feature. You would save a few tenths of a second launching at just over 3000rpm.

Air filter wise, you would gain a little bit from an aftermarket pod in an enclosed box air filter (I'm running a carbonio) and it will give you some added induction noise....

[LaNOS]

Yeah that will be my first port of call and something I will definitely do in the next 3 weeks! When I got this Tiggy I didn't get the car i exactly wanted because my daily driver at the time (Daewoo Lanos) was being turned into a rally car with a roll cage and i needed something else for towing it/commuting (Couldn't wait 6 months for the ideal tiggy to come from Germany).

I'm kinda torn between making this the car i always wanted OR saving it all for the new model coming. With Harding Performance's advice I think I will go as far as Stage II on this car. Seriously considering the k04 w/ a clutch upgrade though!

[LaNOS]

At the moment I'm also quite fascinated by this: Haldex Performance Controllers | HPA Motorsports, Inc.

I developed a lot of knowledge for my Daewoo Lanos when i was doing the rally car conversion. The Tiggy is WAAAAY more complex a beast but I finally have an interest in understanding it so I will be reading all over the forums!

[tigger73]

I upgraded the Haldex controller for the HPA Performance controller on my first Tig.

More than likely you'll have an OAY coupling, however it's best to double check before ordering:



There are switchable controllers available but I can't imagine any time when you'd want to switch it out of race mode.

It does change the handling of the Tiguan - but you will only really notice it when you push it a bit. In standard form the Tig has a tendency to understeer, however in Race mode this changes the (mostly) FWD car to a neutral AWD with close to 50/50 split front to back in torque. This is quite noticeable when going around round-abouts or when giing it a few beans along a twisty road.

Most people that have got the switchable controllers say that they switched it a few times at the start and then left it in Race mode after that. The wireless unit is the one to get if you want to bother with switching as running a cable from front to back is a bit of a pain as is drilling a hole in your dash to put the selector switch.

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

LaNOS it is quite tempting to go the K04 route, the other thing you need to consider is the relatively significant outlay for K04 kit, tune and supporting mods (air filter, DP, Intercooler). It would be easy to hit >$6k including labour......
A couple of years back I nearly bought a CTS turbo K04 kit from Canada which worked out to be AUD2200 landed (exchange rate has since plummeted), the main consideration putting me off was the lack of local tuning support. Since that time the main stream tuners GIAC and Revo have released some tunes in addition to the APR option. Food for thought.

[tigger73]

Yeah the whole equation of whether to tip money into a car or not is a bit of a tricky one. If you're tossing up whether to upgrade a gen1 Tig or to buy the New Tiguan, then one thing that may sway you is that the stock turbo on the new car is bigger. Essentially the Mk7 GTI turbo is now effectively the size of the K04 and the Golf R is bigger again (what would have been a stage 3 car previously).

The only thing that hasn't really been discovered/found out is how the handling of the new car is going to be like given that it is a bigger car. One of the nice things about the gen1 Tig is that it was still small enough to feel quick and nimble (for a 1600kg car). I'm just wondering what the increase in wheelbase/track is going to do for the 2nd gen Tig

[LaNOS]

Yeah the whole equation of whether to tip money into a car or not is a bit of a tricky one. If you're tossing up whether to upgrade a gen1 Tig or to buy the New Tiguan, then one thing that may sway you is that the stock turbo on the new car is bigger. Essentially the Mk7 GTI turbo is now effectively the size of the K04 and the Golf R is bigger again (what would have been a stage 3 car previously).

The only thing that hasn't really been discovered/found out is how the handling of the new car is going to be like given that it is a bigger car. One of the nice things about the gen1 Tig is that it was still small enough to feel quick and nimble (for a 1600kg car). I'm just wondering what the increase in wheelbase/track is going to do for the 2nd gen Tig

Really? Where did you find that info on the new Tiguan having a bigger Turbo? I feel the new Tiguan may have a bit more offroad prowess and light off-roading is something I do with my current Tiguan. (Nothing crazy, driving through paddocks and the odd shallow creek crossing when I go camping). I really wished the new Tiggy had adjustable ride height for increased ground clearance like the Mercedes GLC.

[LaNOS]

I upgraded the Haldex controller for the HPA Performance controller on my first Tig.

More than likely you'll have an OAY coupling, however it's best to double check before ordering:



There are switchable controllers available but I can't imagine any time when you'd want to switch it out of race mode.

It does change the handling of the Tiguan - but you will only really notice it when you push it a bit. In standard form the Tig has a tendency to understeer, however in Race mode this changes the (mostly) FWD car to a neutral AWD with close to 50/50 split front to back in torque. This is quite noticeable when going around round-abouts or when giing it a few beans along a twisty road.

Most people that have got the switchable controllers say that they switched it a few times at the start and then left it in Race mode after that. The wireless unit is the one to get if you want to bother with switching as running a cable from front to back is a bit of a pain as is drilling a hole in your dash to put the selector switch.

See I don't know if I should start a new thread for haldex controllers as I have a few questions regarding them. BUT I guess my biggest one is whether you can effectively use a Haldex Controller to assist you in light off-roading? That would be of phenomenal value then!

[tigger73]

Really? Where did you find that info on the new Tiguan having a bigger Turbo? I feel the new Tiguan may have a bit more offroad prowess and light off-roading is something I do with my current Tiguan. (Nothing crazy, driving through paddocks and the odd shallow creek crossing when I go camping). I really wished the new Tiggy had adjustable ride height for increased ground clearance like the Mercedes GLC.

The New Tiguan has selectable AWD meaning you can set it for snow / road / off-road / custom off-road



Also both the GTI and R have gone up in terms of what is achievable from tuning. This is mainly due to the new engine (and particularly turbo) that is used in the MQB platform cars.

The first press outings for the New Tiguan they tested the off-road abilities and everyone was saying it was quite capable in the (relatively) challenging off-road course that was set out. I think this would be more challenging terrain than most Tiguans would ever see - even if they were used for light off-roading.

Adjustable ride height would be a nice thing, however how many people would actually use it for a reasonably expensive feature to add into the vehicle. I think the marketing guys got it right by leaving it off the options list.

[tigger73]

See I don't know if I should start a new thread for haldex controllers as I have a few questions regarding them. BUT I guess my biggest one is whether you can effectively use a Haldex Controller to assist you in light off-roading? That would be of phenomenal value then!

I don't know if the performance Haldex would improve off-road. Perhaps talk to the guys at HPA as to your intended use. I'm thinking it may be better in some situations, however I never ran mine on anything more challenging than 100km of dirt road. It handled this with ease and was planted and not "floaty". Though I did have lowering springs, upgraded sway bars, anti-lift kit as well as a few other urethane upgraded parts so I wasn't driving a stock car.