Towing - Tiguan tow capability

[Glennb]

Latest from Hayman Reece re: aftermarket Towbar:

On a similar note, did Hayman Reese ever come through with an aftermarket Towbar for the Tig and if so, how much are they? Got quoted $1,500 from dealer today to install the VW towbar on our Tig which arrives in a week or two.

[Arctra]

On a similar note, did Hayman Reese ever come through with an aftermarket Towbar for the Tig and if so, how much are they? Got quoted $1,500 from dealer today to install the VW towbar on our Tig which arrives in a week or two.

No, not yet. I actually followed up with them this week and this was their response:

There has been some hold up with the wiring solution that will be supplied with this towbar, this is being worked on at the moment but no firm time frame has been given to me at this stage but they are hoping to have the bar released before the end of May.

[Glennb]

No, not yet. I actually followed up with them this week and this was their response:

Thanks Arctra. Any indication of pricing? Do you think it would be significantly cheaper than VW OEM or only $100 or so cheaper?

[Arctra]

Thanks Arctra. Any indication of pricing? Do you think it would be significantly cheaper than VW OEM or only $100 or so cheaper?

No idea mate. I did confirm the first time I enquired that the wiring would NOT include Trailer Stability Control that the OEM one does. I preume it'll just use relays to make the trailer lights work and that's it. No idea on price.

[sammo09]

Hi wongai
I believe you should stick with manufactures limits..agree that 100kg drawbar limit is low for 2000kg towing capacity but that is what you should be complying with. The van compliance plate information is comparable to these limits so that is the equation.
I have recently returned from a 1600km trip with TDI auto towing a 14ft Jayco expanda. Van compliance plate..drawbar wt 76kg, tare wt 1277kg. We travel fairly light about 170+kg. TDI did the trip with ease including some long steep grades. daily economy did not exceed 11L/100..best was 9.8L/100 0n one day. Mostly used 5th gear sometimes down to 4th on long steeper grades..good pulling power if in the right gear..used manual change in hilly going. I looked at many van specis before settling on this one. there are not many that fit the envelope. I have towed vans before and am very happy with this combination. For the 75% of time when not towing I have a good performing, good handling, comfortable, fuel efficient vehicle...if only they had " wild cherry red " when I ordered mine.

[jimbomort]

Which gear, TSI's and light trailers

Hi wongai
Mostly used 5th gear sometimes down to 4th on long steeper grades..good pulling power if in the right gear..used manual change in hilly going.

good to see, not sure if applies to auto's, but I know that towing in top gear in many modern manuals can cause problems because gearbox cannot handle the load - somethign to do with gearbox design/set-up that I am not across. Our previous car a Sube outback, gearbox packed it in at 180k, with 5th gear gone. We didn't do much towing but previous owner probably did (we only had it from 140k), mechanic advised this is a common problem in 5 and 6 speed boxes. Somethign to be aware of if you are doing much towing, not sure if its covered in the manual.

so far I have only seen ref to the TDI's in this towing section. Either vehicle is more than fine for towing, but if torque/power while towing is important, a TSI with the APR remap has an edge as a towing vehicle. With the remap, the TSI has more torque at every point of the rev range and substantially more outside the relatively narrow range in the TDI (ie outside 1700-2500rpm), as the TDIs torque falls off quickly below 1500-1700 rpm and the remapped TSI just has bucket loads above 2000 rpm.

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[Sanman]

Latest from Hayman Reece:
($799 is RRP without fitting - please post if you get a better price, or an installed price)
(the documentation with Smartclick does not make it clear if it enables the altered trailer ABS and stability control settings as the OEM does)
Hi,
Thank you for your patience in waiting for the VW Tiguan towbar and wiring solution to be completed, I have just been given notice from our engineering and marketing teams that the towbar and Smartclick wiring solution has been released to the market.

The towbar part number is R2570W and the wiring is part number 4827, combined these two parts have a RRP of $799 plus installation, they can now both be ordered through your local Hayman Reese distributor, a list of which can be found on our website www.haymanreese.com.au

Once again thank you for your patience while we ensured the best possible solution for towbar and wiring system and if I can assist you any further please feel free to contact me



Regards,

Gary Gardiner
Technical Support Representative - Hayman Reese Towing

CEQUENT, a division of TriMas Corporation Pty Ltd
E-Mail: ggardiner@cequent.com.au CEQUENT
Phone: 0412 145 795 PO Box 4050
Dandenong South VIC 3164
Australia

[team_v]

Awesome news.
And quite a bit cheaper than the OEM version too from memory?

[Glennb]

Yep, depending on how much fitting costs.
RRP for the VW OEM version is $1,500 fitted, although presumably you might be able to get $100 or so off with some bargaining.

[jimbomort]

Yep, depending on how much fitting costs.
RRP for the VW OEM version is $1,500 fitted, although presumably you might be able to get $100 or so off with some bargaining.

yes $1500 is right, though at purchase our towbar was fitted for $1300, and dealer advised that 10% of extras was normal for them (and they did a bit more for us), so you might get more than $100 off as we did.

[mike64]

Need to locate and splice these wires. How do I identify and splice them please?

Gawsh.

They've been pre-wired for at least the last 8 months or so. These days, all that is required is two CAN-bus wired under the dash to be spliced into another two CAN-bus wires, the installation of the control module, and the rear section of the wiring to the towbar itself.

I have previously fitted and had coded an OEM Trailer Module to a Skoda Yeti with 100% success and now a 2014 Tiguan. When I had the coding done at the VW dealership that sold me the kit they couldn't get signals on all pins at the trailer end after the module. Seems I still have to splice connections above the accelerator pedal.

How do I identify these wires and the ones to splice into?
What is the recommended splicing method please?
Any assistance appreciated.

[Guest001]

Hi All,
I bought a new "wild cherry red" tiguan three days ago..with a dealer fitted towbar, with intentions of purchasing a small pop top camper for family camping holidays. Upon investigating towing i became aware of towball download limits and it seems i cant tow a pop top camper as the down load limit will be about 130KG with the camper loaded? I discussed this with a camper dealer who seemed to think the 100KG limit is wrong or misleading as the GVM including passengers and lugage is a factor also? Camperguy's take on it was the GVM + 100KG was the load limit on the rear of the tig?? So in theory... if weight in car or GVM is less than stated then extra load can be applied to towbar?? Can somebody please enlighten me.. I feel like im being sold a camper i wont be able to tow.. even though the explanation makes sense??!
Shiny new red tig with RCD 510,MDI,fiscon kufatec, comfort & a useless towball

A few facts about towing from a caravaner.

A The weight on the towball is part of the payload of the tug and is included in the GVM of it. There is no statue about towball weight and you must adhere to the manufacturers specifications

B Fitting a WDH does NOT lighten the ballweight as the ballweight is measured disconnected from the car and is ALWAYS that weight
It does distribute a small portion of that weight onto the cars front axle and the van axle by the fact of it straightening the joint between car and van.

C you must also consider the GCVM or the combined weight of both vehicles and it should not be exceeded.

D A trailer(van) of over 750KG loaded weight must have brakes which may be either over ride or electric. If electric you must have a controller in the car accessible to the driver. Heavier vans have different requirements but as a Tig cant tow them we wont discuss them.

Also the rules say you can tow either the allowable weight set by the manufacturer or the amount set by the towbar maker, WHICHEVER IS THE LESSER. So if you have a 1500kg limit by VW and a 1250KG towbar you can only tow 1250kg Like wise if car is 1500kg and you have a 2000kg towbar its only 1500kg limit

[mike64]

Consider a euro van (eg Swift or Geist) designed to be towed by euro cars instead of the nose heavy local/american designs designed to be towed by monster trucks. My 6.4m Geist built Hobby weighs 1640kg, has a ball weight limit of 100kg. You must be pedantic about loading over the axles to avoid speed sway. I cruise between 80-90km/h as well.

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[vwpolo]

I tow a 16 ft vintage caravan weight unloaded is 990 and loaded as we travel is around 1640 towed on all types of roads including offroad with out an hassles or trouble and tiguan does it so well I've stopped looking at upgrading to an amarok

[Iced Friction]

My 2011 TDI with her trip earlier this year from Melbourne to Brisbane cruised comfortably between 85-100km/h, the boat weighed exactly 2,000kg and i had the ball weigh set to 90kgs. I have a aftermarket tow bar with a rating of 2,200kg while my Tig is only maxed for 2,000kgs a little over the limit but apon inspecting the car after the trip their was no signs of stress. i did get some looks and laughs along the way that's for sure but i wouldn't underestimate your TIG's Towing.