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  • 132 vs 155 tig

    Im sure this has been posted to death but...

    im not sure between the 155 and the 132.

    i test drove both but in the little loop i did it was hard to tell the difference. I also now realise i didnt even go up any decent hills. just down them.

    would you notice the difference in the 155 to the 132 in general driving?

    i might chip it or something. but basically if i do do anything (and dont chicken out scared it will affect warrantly) it will be basic. i wont be changing intercoolers or adint air intakes etc. if you can tick a box on the vcd doover then cool but im not into pulling stuff out and screwing it in when it comes to engine stuff.Im not sure how much needs to be changed from factory to do an apr tune.

    theres about 10k difference between the 2 in the quotes i got, and while i WANT the 155 coz its the biggest and the best... im not sure i can justify the 10k for chrome roof rails and a bigger screen where i plug my ipod in :/

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    My only comment - go drive them both again, find some hills and go UP them. Same hills for each type. If held up by traffic, do it again.
    I doubt you are going to thrash it! If the salesman is hesitant, take him with you. I'd bet he drives it harder!
    When I brought the test-drive Tig back my salesman asked if i'd gone on an interstate trip - but he didn't specify how long I had it for and it was well under an hour.
    I need to sit in seats for at least 20 minutes to let my back start complaining, as does the other half.
    I figure I will have the car for several years, and spend over 1000 hours sitting in it - so 100 minutes is hardly an unreasonable test drive!

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    • #3
      Torque figures on both cars are the same. You can lay the power curves on top of each other and the 132 is capped wheras the 155 power keeps going at higher RPM.

      Because of this you'll only really notice a difference over ~4,000 RPM. You'll have a bit of extra power when overtaking, however for everyday driving there will be virtually no difference between the 2 cars.

      Plus if you do ever tune it you'll end up with the same power out of both cars.

      So it comes down to the chrome blingy bits and a little extra oomph when overtaking vs $10k in the pocket. Oh yes I almost forgot you get bag hooks in the 155...

      2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

      2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
      2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
      2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
      - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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      • #4
        Originally posted by schmenz View Post
        Im sure this has been posted to death but...

        im not sure between the 155 and the 132.

        i test drove both but in the little loop i did it was hard to tell the difference. I also now realise i didnt even go up any decent hills. just down them.

        would you notice the difference in the 155 to the 132 in general driving?

        i might chip it or something. but basically if i do do anything (and dont chicken out scared it will affect warrantly) it will be basic. i wont be changing intercoolers or adint air intakes etc. if you can tick a box on the vcd doover then cool but im not into pulling stuff out and screwing it in when it comes to engine stuff.Im not sure how much needs to be changed from factory to do an apr tune.

        theres about 10k difference between the 2 in the quotes i got, and while i WANT the 155 coz its the biggest and the best... im not sure i can justify the 10k for chrome roof rails and a bigger screen where i plug my ipod in :/

        Hope this helps .. ( cut and paste)

        " With the exception of the top-spec petrol-powered 155TSl, all Tiguan models ride on 16-inch alloy wheels and come equipped with air conditioning, an AM/FM security-coded radio) with an MP3-compatible CD player, Bluetooth phone connectivity as well as a centre-console-mounted media device interface that comes with a USB connection cable.

        The 155TSI adds sporty 17-inch alloys, dual-zone automatic climate control, a fancier touch-screen audio system with MP3, automatic rain-s sensing wipers and rear parking- distance system with optical parking sensors as standard.

        The range-topper also adds extra chrome highlights, tinted glass from the B-pillar back, sports seats, front fog lights and sports suspension. "


        Also some options are cheaper if you go for 155 model like leather interior 4k for 132 and 3.5k for 155, satnav also bit cheaper if go for 155.

        Apart from that most important 0 to 100 km/h value 155TSI - 7.2 sec vs 132TSI 8.4 sec considering both are DSG.

        About the tuning options, if tuned 155 and 132 will end up in very similer (if not identical ) level of power about 190 kW. We have found that 132 has smaller intercooler too, but not sure whether it has been upgraded now from factory. Bad side of tuning is it will void your warranty and car will get flag from VW if you get your car serviced from a VW dealership and it will be in their national database for rest of the car's life. So if need more power and keep the warranty 155TSI is the way to go.


        * also I suspect 132 may have loaded with different DSG software version, because some have got DSG tunes with 132 TSI but I haven't found anyone with DSG upgrade tunes with 155 TSI. ( this is just a speculation)
        Last edited by Ramee; 26-07-2014, 10:11 PM.
        2013 Tiguan 155kW DSG | Leather | Bi Xenon's | Park Assist 2.0 | Panoramic Sunroof | RCD 510 | RVC | MDI
        Mods: APR K04 v3.1 | HPA Haldex | S3 Intercooler | Custom 3" Quad Tip Exhaust | Carbonio Intake | WL HD RSB | GFB DV+ | Koni Yellow Sport Struts & Eibach Springs | HP LCAs | Custom Audio ( Alpine MRX V70 , Audison Bit Ten , Dynamat , Stealth Sub ) | Car Tablet | CB Radio | Sports Pedals | RLine Door Sills | Wheel Arch Extensions | 3 Bar MAP & BKR8EIX | RT VCDS .... Performance: 0 - 100 km/h, 5.0 seconds ( Racelogic PBox tested ) Tiguan Build Thread

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        • #5
          Thanks guys.

          I did notice my back got achey in the 155 (and the xv) but not the 132 but I drove it on a different day. I also didn't play with the lumbar support or seat position too much.
          The dealer is good. No time limit and just gives me the keys. I got bored and couldn't think where to go. I might just pay the $11 and take it through our nearby national park. It's got some hills. And also one hill I went down is huge and straight out of a roundabout. It's definitely a second gear one so I'll go up it next time!
          If I do decide the 155 the price with leather and sunroof was low 50s so I'll wait the few months for the r line

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          • #6
            Ps tigger73 I did laugh at te bag hooks in your thread and thought. Ooooo bag hooks!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by schmenz View Post
              If I do decide the 155 the price with leather and sunroof was low 50s so I'll wait the few months for the r line
              I am sure you can had one for mid to high 40s with leather and sunroof. Also don't forget Bi Xenons, it makes Tig little bit special and is an option hard to add later. For example it is easy to add satnav later than Bi Xenons or leather or sunroof . I got everything in my signature right around 49k mark.
              Last edited by Ramee; 27-07-2014, 09:30 AM.
              2013 Tiguan 155kW DSG | Leather | Bi Xenon's | Park Assist 2.0 | Panoramic Sunroof | RCD 510 | RVC | MDI
              Mods: APR K04 v3.1 | HPA Haldex | S3 Intercooler | Custom 3" Quad Tip Exhaust | Carbonio Intake | WL HD RSB | GFB DV+ | Koni Yellow Sport Struts & Eibach Springs | HP LCAs | Custom Audio ( Alpine MRX V70 , Audison Bit Ten , Dynamat , Stealth Sub ) | Car Tablet | CB Radio | Sports Pedals | RLine Door Sills | Wheel Arch Extensions | 3 Bar MAP & BKR8EIX | RT VCDS .... Performance: 0 - 100 km/h, 5.0 seconds ( Racelogic PBox tested ) Tiguan Build Thread

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              • #8
                the only problem is theres only 1 black tig with leather and sunroof in the country and its in WA.

                i want bixenons too

                theres a white ex demo in vic with a couple of hundred kms on it for 44K

                or wait and get everything in the r line but i dont know what the price will be

                oh and these prices are with zero haggling.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by schmenz View Post
                  the only problem is theres only 1 black tig with leather and sunroof in the country and its in WA.

                  i want bixenons too

                  theres a white ex demo in vic with a couple of hundred kms on it for 44K

                  or wait and get everything in the r line but i dont know what the price will be

                  oh and these prices are with zero haggling.
                  Yeah, I know the feeling, if you can get a ex demo for good value it would not be a bad idea too, because Tigs depreciation rate is quite high and added extra means it is even higher.

                  Up coming R line could only be the diesel version and if they bring gasoline version price could be bit higher due to novel factor. May be high 50s with bundled option package. However it would be wise to wait and see how it will turn up.
                  2013 Tiguan 155kW DSG | Leather | Bi Xenon's | Park Assist 2.0 | Panoramic Sunroof | RCD 510 | RVC | MDI
                  Mods: APR K04 v3.1 | HPA Haldex | S3 Intercooler | Custom 3" Quad Tip Exhaust | Carbonio Intake | WL HD RSB | GFB DV+ | Koni Yellow Sport Struts & Eibach Springs | HP LCAs | Custom Audio ( Alpine MRX V70 , Audison Bit Ten , Dynamat , Stealth Sub ) | Car Tablet | CB Radio | Sports Pedals | RLine Door Sills | Wheel Arch Extensions | 3 Bar MAP & BKR8EIX | RT VCDS .... Performance: 0 - 100 km/h, 5.0 seconds ( Racelogic PBox tested ) Tiguan Build Thread

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by David F View Post
                    My only comment - go drive them both again, find some hills and go UP them. Same hills for each type. If held up by traffic, do it again.
                    I doubt you are going to thrash it! If the salesman is hesitant, take him with you. I'd bet he drives it harder!
                    When I brought the test-drive Tig back my salesman asked if i'd gone on an interstate trip - but he didn't specify how long I had it for and it was well under an hour.
                    I need to sit in seats for at least 20 minutes to let my back start complaining, as does the other half.
                    I figure I will have the car for several years, and spend over 1000 hours sitting in it - so 100 minutes is hardly an unreasonable test drive!
                    +1

                    I wouldnt spend anything over $10 for a car that i have only test driven for 10-20mnts. Unless i earn how much the car costs in 10-20mnts.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ramee View Post
                      Yeah, I know the feeling, if you can get a ex demo for good value it would not be a bad idea too, because Tigs depreciation rate is quite high and added extra means it is even higher.

                      Up coming R line could only be the diesel version and if they bring gasoline version price could be bit higher due to novel factor. May be high 50s with bundled option package. However it would be wise to wait and see how it will turn up.
                      Yes but then you wait and miss the car you wanted.

                      I think it's a catch 22.

                      Though the car in Perth has to be more expensive as they will have to freight it across the country and this will add close to $1,000 to the cost of the car. You'd want to get it for a very good price, however I think this is going to be hard with the additional freight that has been loaded into the car.

                      The problem is that we don't know the pricing/options that are going to be available in MY15.

                      I know it's hard to wait when you've decided what you want.

                      2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                      2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                      2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                      2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                      - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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                      • #12
                        im waiting to hear back on arrival times of the r but didnt think to ask about petrol vs diesel.

                        freight was 1.5 and he said hed do it for 800.

                        there are a lot of 132s around in leather and sunroof in black.

                        the demo is white and im not sure about white as I had my heart set on black. no idea why. i guess i think they seem more stealthy and less soccer mummy / lease car. and the bumpers stand out less in black.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by schmenz View Post
                          im waiting to hear back on arrival times of the r but didnt think to ask about petrol vs diesel.

                          freight was 1.5 and he said hed do it for 800.

                          there are a lot of 132s around in leather and sunroof in black.

                          the demo is white and im not sure about white as I had my heart set on black. no idea why. i guess i think they seem more stealthy and less soccer mummy / lease car. and the bumpers stand out less in black.
                          Unless you can get a really good deal on a MY14 I'd be waiting for the MY15. I'd tell the sales guy that as well. If he wants to get the sale now he has to give you a really good reason to buy right now. VWA is offering discounts to the dealers to move these cars so there should be a lot more to play with.

                          Agree also a fully loaded car will depreciate faster as nobody pays for the options in a second-hand - just makes it easier to sell.

                          I wouldn't sign up for a MY14 car unless they were practically giving it away... I believe there will be a number of improvements in MY15 which would be worth the wait including headlight/tail light upgrades (quite possibly LED tails), upgraded steering wheel and head unit from the Mk7 plus R-line body kit which opens up a bunch more colours if you don't like the 2 tone/cheap plastics.

                          The MY14 will take a big hit in depreciation when the MY15 arrives.... so don't be too quick in signing up for a MY14.

                          2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                          2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                          2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                          2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                          - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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                          • #14
                            Unfortunately I can't wait until next year for the updated body. And that won't be until late 2015
                            If I do I'll need new brakes and clutch on the current car or sell the current car and get a cheapie second hand one in the interim.

                            I can stretch till October for the r line tho.

                            The prices I've been offered so far aren't amazing but I haven't bargained as I'm not 100% committed to buy a particular model yet

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                            • #15
                              155 dsg

                              Originally posted by schmenz View Post
                              The prices I've been offered so far aren't amazing but I haven't bargained as I'm not 100% committed to buy a particular model yet
                              If I can pitch in with my 2 cents worth:
                              In 2012 I bought a Tiguan155. I took the approach that although I wanted a very particular car (BLK or WHT, 155 DSG, biXenons, Leather, Sunroof), it was really the VW Dealers who WANTED my business.
                              (Afterall, my WA local dealer had responded to my particulars with ... "that's great, but I CAN give you a Blue one with cream leather and no sunroof for $54k").

                              I contacted a bunch of VW dealers Australia-wide and put what I was after out there. Long story short, I bought my beautiful Tiggy for 15% ($7.5k) BELOW list price. [Helps if you negotiate for a living ]

                              As tigger73 says ... with the new model due, they are looking to shift old stock so don't be afraid to negotiate aggressively.

                              Oh, and when I got my deal, the 155 was still relatively new (low numbers in Aus), and there was ONLY 1 BLK one (almost) in Australia (it was on a boat 3 weeks out) ... so don't let anyone tell you it will be hard to get a good deal because you are after the car.

                              Just remember THEY are after the sale ... make them work for it.

                              By the way ... I went for the 155 as it had DSG (because of world demand the 132 here was ONLY the 132 Pacific with automatic). There is a difference driving the two ... probably not something noticeable on a 15-20 minute test drive, even back-to-back. And without any mods, the 155 gives even a GTi a surprise!

                              PS the biXenons are awesome!

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