Tiguan for towing

[desvejk]

The critical thing with towing is to stay within the limits set by VW.
The Tiguan has a 2000kg towing load.
It would be assumed that this is the load for towing on level ground.
I have had no problems towing our 1350kg camper trailer on hills and steep mountain climbs. My reckoning is that, under these conditions the Tiguan would have reached a 2000kg towing limit.
Have you put your question to VW?

[Guest001]

The critical thing with towing is to stay within the limits set by VW.
The Tiguan has a 2000kg towing load.
It would be assumed that this is the load for towing on level ground.
I have had no problems towing our 1350kg camper trailer on hills and steep mountain climbs. My reckoning is that, under these conditions the Tiguan would have reached a 2000kg towing limit.
Have you put your question to VW?

1350 is the weight of the trailer whether you are going along the flat or up hill.

Its just the resistance is greater as the weight is dragging more. That's what gears are for, to change down and keep the revs up before the weight overcomes the torque of the motor.

Nothing can weigh more than its static weight.

[mrezekiel]

Well that is a bummer, the Hayman Reese bar comes with the wiring loom for $592. I'm struggling to find anywhere that can supply it without the loom for cheaper.

To be honest I just spoke with ARB in Albury and was very unimpressed with the tone he used when I said I wanted to use the VW loom for proper connectivity with the computer and his reply was "makes no difference" I said yeah it does, I want the VW loom. Then he went on to question what the difference was and was dismissive about the esp features.

I can't stand dealing people like that, so they have lost my business. There is other places ok town that can get the bars and install them.

Anyway does anyone know about getting the tow pack for cheaper without the loom? I put the question to Hayman Reese directly but haven't heard back yet.


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[db2540]

People get like that when they don't know what they are talking about. I have found I get similar replies in my small town. He should look at it like this. I make X amount on the bar and I make X amount on the wiring. Simple. If he feels he should make more only on the bar because he is not doing the wiring. He is a tool. Go else where.

[mrezekiel]

Thank you all for the help, I have just found out that it will be an extra $1000 to have a brake controller and extra power wiring installed for a 12 pin plug.

I have a quick question for anyone reading, are these things easily installed by myself at a later date? Because $1000 is a lot. I don't need it right now but I do hope in the future that I will have the camper trailer and boat that will utilise these things, in the long run it's cheaper to do it now rather then later unless I can do it myself.

I was told the brake controller needs to run up through the floor and they put a nice switch on the dash, the power for running fridges and charging battery comes from the battery at about $80 just for the cable and other things need to be installed for the power regulation which makes sense.

Thanks guys!


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[fergo308]

Hi all,

I'm looking to downsize from an R51 Pathfinder to a used 103TDI DSG Tiguan (i.e 2010 onwards),but still want to be able to tow close to the 2T rating half a dozen times a year or so when I take my weekend car to the track.

Do any of you have any experience with towing around 1700-1800kg trailer weights with the 2l turbo diesel engine backed by the DSG gearbox and are there any potential problems I should consider/look out for?

The pathy tows quite well but isn't a nice car (truck really) for my wife to drive daily and I'd like to get her a nicer car for her daily duties that can still tow what I need it to.
Seeing as I can't leave any car I buy alone,any tig I buy will cop suspension and brake upgrades,but it's the driveline that I'm most concerned about.

Any tips/advice you guys could give me would be appreciated.


Justin...

[tigger73]

Hi all,

I'm looking to downsize from an R51 Pathfinder to a used 103TDI DSG Tiguan (i.e 2010 onwards),but still want to be able to tow close to the 2T rating half a dozen times a year or so when I take my weekend car to the track.

Do any of you have any experience with towing around 1700-1800kg trailer weights with the 2l turbo diesel engine backed by the DSG gearbox and are there any potential problems I should consider/look out for?

The pathy tows quite well but isn't a nice car (truck really) for my wife to drive daily and I'd like to get her a nicer car for her daily duties that can still tow what I need it to.
Seeing as I can't leave any car I buy alone,any tig I buy will cop suspension and brake upgrades,but it's the driveline that I'm most concerned about.

Any tips/advice you guys could give me would be appreciated.


Justin...

I'd be inclined to go with the standard 6 speed auto rather than the 7 speed DSG for towing duties.

As much as I like my DSG for day to day driving/performance, I think the heat generated with the DSG clutches slipping in low gears and 2 tonnes on the back could shorten the life of the DSG gearbox.

I think most people using the Tig for towing have either the manual or standard 6 speed auto.

[fergo308]

Thanks for the reply Tigger73.
One question I have in response: When was the auto dropped as a gearbox option? From what I've seen online so far it seems to be in late 2010 or so,as the later cars listed on carsales and the like all seem to have a DSG,and the info from VW on their website shows a DSG as the only gearbox option on new 103TDI Pacific tigs.
An auto would be preferable for the usual reliability reasons,but are they available on the newer cars?

I've only worked on Mk4 and older golfs,the odd audi and passats in the past,so my knowledge on the newer VAG product is very limited,but I'm trying to pick it up.


Justin...

[tigger73]

One question I have in response: When was the auto dropped as a gearbox option? From what I've seen online so far it seems to be in late 2010 or so,as the later cars listed on carsales and the like all seem to have a DSG,and the info from VW on their website shows a DSG as the only gearbox option on new 103TDI Pacific tigs.
An auto would be preferable for the usual reliability reasons,but are they available on the newer cars?

I've only worked on Mk4 and older golfs,the odd audi and passats in the past,so my knowledge on the newer VAG product is very limited,but I'm trying to pick it up.

I think you're right it's only up to the 2010 model diesels that have the auto - everything later is DSG.

There was a period in 2012 where the DSG was in shortage and they went back to the 6 speed auto but I think this was only in the 132TSI Pacific. They ended up throwing in a heap of extra goodies to sweeten the deal and that's also where the "Pacific" name came from. They have kept the name but now they are offering DSG as standard. I don't think the auto is available as an option anymore.

The 118TSI has the 6 speed (DQ250) DSG but this is a different beast altogether - same gearbox as in the GTI and Golf R and same engine as the Golf 118TSI which has had the odd issue here in Aus... The 7 speed DSG in the Tiguan is the higher rated DQ500 which is also in the Audi TTRS.

....so if you want an Auto diesel you'll have to try and find a low km 2010 model. There's one up in Qld with 20,000km on the clock

[mrezekiel]

Well I used to tow a boat with a BA Ford Falcon and it felt like I was towing a house. With the Tiguan I don't even feel it. But the boat is only a 4.3m fibreglass with a big old merc outboard. Loaded it might be nearing one tonne unbraked.

It's very steady on the road, with the proper tow kit from VW you get all the extra stability control features. I'm contemplating using it for small wake boat which will be near the 2 tonne limit. I only have to go 10km to the lake but I don't think it'll be any trouble.

If I do use it for towing a larger boat I'll probably get one of the tuning chips, there is one which is apparently really good and does more than just increase air and fuel to the motor, I haven't looked at them for some time so I can't remember sorry.



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