Ramee's Tiguan Build Thread 155KW DSG

[Suffolk]

Goodluck with the install. It was great to meet another forum member. Glad the intercooler went to a good home.

[Ramee]

I've been promised an S3 intercooler so will be interested to hear how you go with the change-out. I'm not planning on going anything more than stage 2 so I think the S3 will be a good upgrade (though I know there are better intercoolers out there).

If it's a massive job I may have second thoughts and wait until I can afford the "real deal"

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Yes .. S3 intercooler is only 30% larger than stock one and intercoolers like APR's is 100% larger. But when you consider price difference and gains specially if not going for track regularly it could be hard to justify extra 1000$.

I try my best to do it in DIY way as it saves money and get more experience on working on cars which is also my hobby I have placed a order for K04 before APR price hike going to happen and this could prepare me for the big DIY .

[Ramee]

Goodluck with the install. It was great to meet another forum member. Glad the intercooler went to a good home.

Thanks Buddy. Hope you get the bigger bad boy soon!!

[tigger73]

Yes .. S3 intercooler is only 30% larger than stock one and intercoolers like APR's is 100% larger. But when you consider price difference and gains specially if not going for track regularly it could be hard to justify extra 1000$.

I try my best to do it in DIY way as it saves money and get more experience on working on cars which is also my hobby I have placed a order for K04 before APR price hike going to happen and this could prepare me for the big DIY .

Yes the APR gear attracts a bit of a price premium here unfortunately.

HPA Motorsport do a K04 kit for the EA888 which is reasonably priced. Though you'll still have to get a tune locally.


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[Ramee]

Yes the APR gear attracts a bit of a price premium here unfortunately.

HPA Motorsport do a K04 kit for the EA888 which is reasonably priced. Though you'll still have to get a tune locally.


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HPA K04 kit is really nice and specially they are going to make that tune suitable with their new TSI intake manifold which is really nice. If they get it right may be time to change the tune


On positive side for APR they are almost finishing a version 3 tune for K04 which promises more power ~380hp and torque.

[tigger73]

HPA K04 kit is really nice and specially they are going to make that tune suitable with their new TSI intake manifold which is really nice. If they get it right may be time to change the tune


On positive side for APR they are almost finishing a version 3 tune for K04 which promises more power ~380hp and torque.

Yes if there was someone able to do the HPA tunes here I'd be tempted to go K04/intake manifold +flapper delete.


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[Ramee]

Tiguan S3 Intercooler Install

Today I was able to install S3 intercooler for Tig. I did it solo with in about 6 hours time and without too much struggling. Tig has bit more ground clearance than GTI s so I did not have to jack it up during the swap. I got two hoses with the S3 intercooler but one of them (pre intercooler/ turbo side) one is too short for Tig. So I used stock hose but had to cut about half an inch to clear the swelled area of the hose and to get the perfect length. For the other side of the intercooler, I could use the S3 hose easily. I used APR and other internet resources as a reference and even though they are for GTIs, still closely relevant for Tigs.

Some pictures of the install.

Front bumper removed.


Water is leaking because I forgot clamp the headlight washer line!


Bumper bar, headlights, and intercooler supporting bracket removed.


No need to remove the hood unlocking wire in Tigs. Just leave the supporting bracket away with wire attached.


Intercooler is in between two radiators (AC and Engine coolant). Just unbolted both of them from the intercooler.


S3 vs stock intercooler. Not much difference in size S3 may be 4mm thicker than stock and has aluminium end tanks.


S3 is about to go in. Stock one is going to garbage


S3 intercooler in the car!



Did a test drive, car feels bit livelier. But today is not a very hot day so benefits will be more clear in a 30+ degree day

[tigger73]

Today I was able to install S3 intercooler for Tig. I did it solo with in about 6 hours time and without too much struggling. Tig has bit more ground clearance than GTI s so I did not have to jack it up during the swap. I got two hoses with the S3 intercooler but one of them (pre intercooler/ turbo side) one is too short for Tig. So I used stock hose but had to cut about half an inch to clear the swelled area of the hose and to get the perfect length. For the other side of the intercooler, I could use the S3 hose easily. I used APR and other internet resources as a reference and even though they are for GTIs, still closely relevant for Tigs.

Nice job. Are both the stock hoses a little too long? Just in case I don't get hoses with the intercooler...

So did you get your sway bar fitted too? or has that been pushed out to next weekend?

S3 vs stock intercooler. Not much difference in size S3 may be 4mm thicker than stock and has aluminium end tanks.

S3 is about to go in. Stock one is going to garbage

I'm guessing this will be a one-way install for me too. Given the time taken to put it in, it doesn't seem worth it to pull it out afterwards. Though I'll probably keep the stock intercooler anyway (and worry abouth te cut hoses later).

Did a test drive, car feels bit livelier. But today is not a very hot day so benefits will be more clear in a 30+ degree day

I'm not sure it's going to be noticeable. Maybe just a placebo effect

[Ramee]

Nice job. Are both the stock hoses a little too long? Just in case I don't get hoses with the intercooler...

So did you get your sway bar fitted too? or has that been pushed out to next weekend?

Yes both stock ones are little too long.. Not much, may be extra half an inch long. Problem with them is stock intercooler inlet and exits are bit larger than S3 intercoioler ends. So these stock pipes go loosely over the S3 ends. Better to cut stock piping ends bit to get more through fit and avoid the swelled area of stock hoses.

I could not install my sway bay yet because I was very tired after end of this exercise. Good thing is I have something to do again to the car next weekend too

I'm not sure it's going to be noticeable. Maybe just a placebo effect

He he.. May be, but to motivate you I would say it gives extra 10 hp in hot days

[brad]

RSB will take you 30m tops.

If you park where a flat is falling away to a slope you don't even have to jack the car up just slide under from the back.

You'll need some triple-sqauare bits. I can't remeber the size - sorry.

[Ramee]

RSB will take you 30m tops.

If you park where a flat is falling away to a slope you don't even have to jack the car up just slide under from the back.

You'll need some triple-sqauare bits. I can't remeber the size - sorry.

Thanks brad, I will give it a go as soon as I get a chance. Looks like an easy enough job for me

[Ramee]

Some data logs of intake air temperatures with stock and S3 intercoolers installed. They logged in nearly similar times of different days with ambient temperatures nearly same on same path from my work to home. Logs show a very clear decrease in intake temps with S3 intercooler even though it is not an ideal intercooler, still heat soak little bit at traffic lights.

[tigger73]

Some data logs of intake air temperatures with stock and S3 intercoolers installed. They logged in nearly similar times of different days with ambient temperatures nearly same on same path from my work to home. Logs show a very clear decrease in intake temps with S3 intercooler even though it is not an ideal intercooler, still heat soak little bit at traffic lights.

Nice work Ramee. Always good to have the hard facts to support spending the time and $.


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[Ramee]

Tig's Rear Sway Bar Install

Today I changed the Tig's rear sway bar with a Whiteline 24mm Heavy duty sway bar. Whiteline sway bar is a solid bar compared to stock hollow one so considerably heavier. Whiteline one comes with two stiffness settings and I first installed it in low stiffness position. During the test drive I could feel considerable improvement in handling even with mild setting and body roll is fairly under control, but you can feel it is still there. There are some favourite spots where I can really see the handling improvement of the Tig such as long curvy downhill road sections and I can safely say there is a significant improvement in body roll.

Some pictures of the install.

Stock vs Whiteline sway bar


New sway bar installed. I had to use M10 and M6 XZN bits for the operation.


I did not have XZN bits in my tool box so had to buy some. Supercheap and local Bunnings did not have them, Total Tools have them as a set with other mixture of bits.

[tigger73]

Today I changed the Tig's rear sway bar with a Whiteline 24mm Heavy duty sway bar. Whiteline sway bar is a solid bar compared to stock hollow one so considerably heavier. Whiteline one comes with two stiffness settings and I first installed it in low stiffness position. During the test drive I could feel considerable improvement in handling even with mild setting and body roll is fairly under control, but you can feel it is still there. There are some favourite spots where I can really see the handling improvement of the Tig such as long curvy downhill road sections and I can safely say there is a significant improvement in body roll.

Surprised you didn't go for the stiffest setting first