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  • Advice on tyres - Off road tyres.

    This topic may have sort of been covered in other tyre threads, but I would like to ask if anyone has gone in the opposite direction with tyres and wheels... ie. left the 16's or 17's on, but fitted off-road tyres to the standard wheels. I am familiar with many of the offroad tyre options (had 4WD for many years) but keen to see what has been fitted to the Tiguan and what size/s.

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    Yeah, I'm on the same wavelength as you as far as wanting more AT tyres. I am not going to replace my current set of Bridgestone Dueler's that came with the Tig until they're done, but after that I'm likely to go for AT tyres. If you look at my question and subsequent discussions in this thread it may help:
    http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newf...ad.php?t=36018

    I have also sought the input of a South African guy (user handle jjj) on the MyTiguan forums as he appears to be a testing the offroad limits of his Tig for a while now. Haven't had a reply yet but I'll let you know when he does reply.
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    • #3
      I guess everyone will have their own requirements re wheels/tyres etc.. but we too will wait until the factory Hankooks wear and then replace them with probably the BF Goodrich A/T (which we have had over 100,000km wear out of a set on our Toyota Landcruiser) or maybe a set of Cooper ST which just did over 60,000km (half worn) on our Nissan Patrol.

      I have heard of jjj - but we are just looking at doing some tracks and tours that are "SUV" rated and then use a larger 4WD for a little more hard-core or rougher stuff.

      Comfort of 'passenger rated' tyres on road is great but you should see how they react to tree roots or bits of other sharp timber on a track - therefore 'LT' rated is the way to go.

      I see that BFG make the A/T in 215/70x16 which works out at +22mm diameter over the standard. I know that +15mm is max legal, but I reckon getting caught for this on a Tiguan would be close to nil. Have driven around for ages with 33" or larger tyres on larger wagons, with no-one ever saying anything (depends on how the car is driven too).

      I'd be keen to see a few pics of what others may have done and get feedback re diameter, fitment, their choices, any rubbing etc...
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      • #4
        Just a question...

        My Tiguan has the factory fitted Dueler HPs on it, which are labelled as 215/65 R16 98H. I am hoping to get AT tyres that suit the vehicle.

        So far, I've managed to find the following brands in that size:
        * Pirelli Scorpion STR
        * Bridgestone D693 Dueler AT
        * Bridgestone D697 Dueler AT

        With the Duelers, the measurements were given as 215/65R16C - I'm not sure what the C stands for... Car (meaning "Passenger" class, perhaps?). There were a few other AT tyres that were labelled as 215/70 as well.

        If I am looking at an AT tyre, do I need to get a set that is EXACTLY 215/65 R16 98H?
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        • #5
          For what it's worth I do a bit of off-roading in mine and have just put 2 new tyres on the front (replacing michelins that were hopeless in mud). After much research I fitted Toyo Open Country HT (235 55 17), the first "all season" tyres I've seen here. They're brilliant so far and I'll certainly be replacing the rears with them as soon as they're due !!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by STIGuan View Post
            Just a question...

            My Tiguan has the factory fitted Dueler HPs on it, which are labelled as 215/65 R16 98H. I am hoping to get AT tyres that suit the vehicle.

            So far, I've managed to find the following brands in that size:
            * Pirelli Scorpion STR
            * Bridgestone D693 Dueler AT
            * Bridgestone D697 Dueler AT

            With the Duelers, the measurements were given as 215/65R16C - I'm not sure what the C stands for... Car (meaning "Passenger" class, perhaps?). There were a few other AT tyres that were labelled as 215/70 as well.

            If I am looking at an AT tyre, do I need to get a set that is EXACTLY 215/65 R16 98H?


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            • #7
              Purchased a set of Dueler 693's about four months ago and have done about 15k on them so far. They held up well when airing down for corrugations and rougher terrain. They suit the look of the car quite well too. They are slightly noisier than the HP's and are not quite as good on the tarmac handling-wise, but I think this is largely a negligible factor if you're looking for a tyre that is reasonably good on the road as well as being stronger off the road. Also, the tyres don't appear to have impacted significantly upon fuel efficiency, as I still rack up similar figures to when I had the HP's (which were marginally better in this regard).

              I picked them up in Exmouth, costing just over the 1k mark. I've heard that 693's are on the way out, being replaced by the 694's. The 694's, I believe, have a more aggressive tread pattern designed for mud terrain, but are otherwise essentially very similar.
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              • #8
                If you want to compare tyre sizes and its effect on your vehicle and how far it puts your speedo out use this

                Custom rims, wheel tire packages for your ride - RIMSnTIRES.com

                Putting larger tyres on will up the gearing and make it slower off the mark.
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                • #9
                  Advice on tires

                  My new TDi got delivered yesterday, and its time to start upgrading There are so many threads on here with awesome advice, I've spent the last few weeks getting up to speed with all the mods available! Opticoat goes on Monday, tint next week as well - but looking at wheels, I still have a few q's...

                  Got the TDi and it came with the stock 16"s. Found some Davenport 18" rims, but wanted to ask if anyone had advice on rubber. I do mostly highway driving, but we live on a few kms of dirt road, and when the weather gets bad, we can't use sealed roads and its a 15km trip to get to the freeway all on dirt, so performance on dirt roads is pretty important too.

                  Does anyone have any recommendation/advice?? I've asked the peeps at Motorsport Wheels & Tires (recommended via a friend) and got the following feedback:

                  235/50/18 Dunlop SP01 $295 Fitted and Balanced.
                  235/50/18 Pirelli Scorpian Verde $320 Fitted and Balanced.
                  235/50/18 Hankook K110 $260 Fitted and Balanced.
                  235/50/18 Kumho KU39 $195 Fitted and Balanced.

                  Has anyone had any experiences they could share?? Keen to make a decision this week

                  Cheers and thanks in advance!!

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                  • #10
                    Advice on tires

                    If you are worried about wet dirt roads, wouldn't you be better looking at something from the Bridgestone dueler range, or coopers, or BF Goodrich....? I've been considering the upgrade to a tig lately and have been thinking of going the opposite to many by jacking it up a touch and whacking some aggressive rubber on it
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                    • #11
                      Just wondering how the 18's would soak up corrugations? I think 15k's of smooth gravel would be fine with 18's, but 15k's of corrugations would be better with 16 or 17' wheels & more side wall?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MGV View Post
                        Just wondering how the 18's would soak up corrugations? I think 15k's of smooth gravel would be fine with 18's, but 15k's of corrugations would be better with 16 or 17' wheels & more side wall?
                        Fitted to Tiguan, it wouldn't. The 18" and generally any low profile tyre is more likely to get the puncture on the dirt road. I stick with the 16" for very same reason, the comfort and a casual drive just a bit off the road.

                        When our stock Hankook tyres wear out, I will get the Cooper tyres.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kolchy View Post
                          My new TDi got delivered yesterday, and its time to start upgrading There are so many threads on here with awesome advice, I've spent the last few weeks getting up to speed with all the mods available! Opticoat goes on Monday, tint next week as well - but looking at wheels, I still have a few q's...

                          Got the TDi and it came with the stock 16"s. Found some Davenport 18" rims, but wanted to ask if anyone had advice on rubber. I do mostly highway driving, but we live on a few kms of dirt road, and when the weather gets bad, we can't use sealed roads and its a 15km trip to get to the freeway all on dirt, so performance on dirt roads is pretty important too.

                          Does anyone have any recommendation/advice?? I've asked the peeps at Motorsport Wheels & Tires (recommended via a friend) and got the following feedback:

                          235/50/18 Dunlop SP01 $295 Fitted and Balanced.
                          235/50/18 Pirelli Scorpian Verde $320 Fitted and Balanced.
                          235/50/18 Hankook K110 $260 Fitted and Balanced.
                          235/50/18 Kumho KU39 $195 Fitted and Balanced.

                          Has anyone had any experiences they could share?? Keen to make a decision this week

                          Cheers and thanks in advance!!
                          I wouldnt even dream of using low profile tyres on a 4wd as half the suspension is in the sidewall of a regular tyre.

                          Note the number on here who have carved rims up in normal potholes when running them so what will happen when you hit a washout with 50's on. As well as that putting larger diameter wheels will up the gearing and make the vehicle less responsive.
                          Also the lower profile will ride harder. Also if going off road an LT rating is 150% better than a car rated tyre.

                          I got 65,000k out of a set of BFG AT's mostly fully loaded and towing a 3T caravan Spent a lot of time on gravel and corrugations and never ever got a puncture Were still Ok when I sold it
                          Remembering that anything more than 15mm over stock diameter is illegal
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                          • #14
                            Tyres are always going to be a compromise and only you can decide in what area/s to compromise.

                            I do 95% of my driving on road so when I purchases a set of Michelin Latitude Cross(all terrain) tyres for my X-Trail, it was a mistake. Now I have a vehicle that is noisier, less road capable, not as comfortable and perhaps a little less safe too. I would have been far better off staying with Latitude Tour HP's that were replaced and I will be going back to them as soon as these tyres are down to the tread wear indicator.

                            Lesson learned. While I thought fitting AT's to my X-trail was a good idea at the time, it has not turned out to be so. My opinion now is that you would be far better off fitting tyres biased towards the road especially so if you do more than 90% of your driving on road then a road biased tyre will be by far the best choice for you.

                            I do 1 or 2 trips a year up the beach and perhaps 40 kays on gravel roads a month so my road tyres will handle that if I am careful.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kolchy View Post
                              Does anyone have any recommendation/advice?? I've asked the peeps at Motorsport Wheels & Tires (recommended via a friend) and got the following feedback:

                              235/50/18 Dunlop SP01 $295 Fitted and Balanced.
                              235/50/18 Pirelli Scorpian Verde $320 Fitted and Balanced.
                              235/50/18 Hankook K110 $260 Fitted and Balanced.
                              235/50/18 Kumho KU39 $195 Fitted and Balanced.

                              Has anyone had any experiences they could share?? Keen to make a decision this week
                              Try and stay away from asymmetric tyres. They can be more trouble than they are worth and are more sensitive to tyre pressures when it comes to even wear across the tyre.

                              No problem with directional tyres.

                              Remember, it is not just the size and speed you need to consider, but the load rating as well.
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