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  • #46
    Looks like I'm just going to have to put the towball back on and use a bike rack attached to that. It would have been great to find something that can use the vertical hitch though - less parts attached to each other should be more reliable and stronger...

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    • #47
      Much as I'd agree with you, and companies like Gripsport might be able to do a custom job that'd fit the Tiguan, I'd tend to suggest that its not that clever an idea. Reason being that with a 2" hitch (horizontal mount, say, Hayman Reese style) you'll at least be able to support part of it in the hitch when mounting it to your car. Same goes with a tongue mount (at least to a point).
      Trying to hold the bike rack up whilst you're halfway under it attempting to engage the thread or secure the locking pin, not to mention trying to align it into the vertical hitch mount is not my idea of fun. Of course, not such an issue when you only need to engage the (much lighter, and smaller) tongue.
      2012 TDi DSG Tiguan
      2011 TDi DSG Octavia Wagon

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      • #48
        Plus 1 for gripsport, give them a call and see what they say or drop around and see them.
        Might be able to manufacture a right angle adapter for it, other wise you could look at a qr adapter from gripsport. Or do you have one of the fallic mini style tow bars?
        Al..
        Edit: or change to a hayman reese set up and sell the factory one to recover funds.
        Last edited by 99_FGT; 05-06-2013, 07:16 PM.
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        • #49
          Install a hitch (for bike rack attachment only) to Tig

          Hi gents, is there anyone know where to buy this hitch for a 2011 tig? I know it's available from ebay but wondering if possible to get one from local source?
          Last edited by kzhao19; 03-07-2013, 11:04 AM.
          2011 TIGUAN 125 TSI . NO OPTION . DIY AUTO HEADLIGHT . DIY RCD-510 . WAITING ON DNS-810 .
          (8L/100KM . 62000KM)

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          • #50
            I don't know if A it would be legal outside of NA (they have totally different load capabilities for the Tiguan of 2000 lb instead of our 2000 Kgs) AND B I don't know if models outside of NA have the threaded hole fittings in the bumper for them (here they remove the entire rear bumper and replace it with a stronger unit which links right into the rear subframe). Here in NZ you wouldn't get a WOF with one as they're not approved for our Tiguan.

            Cheers
            Derek
            Alexandra
            2022 R-Line Golf Mk8 in Kings Red Metallic
            Previously 3 Tiguans 2008, 2013, 2017

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            • #51
              Yeah I am aware of the lower load capacity of NA version hitch, but I am only going to carry a bike rack.
              The hitch in picture looks strong enough to do the job
              2011 TIGUAN 125 TSI . NO OPTION . DIY AUTO HEADLIGHT . DIY RCD-510 . WAITING ON DNS-810 .
              (8L/100KM . 62000KM)

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              • #52
                Unfortunately NA eBay is the only source, no one makes it locally.

                Some Tiguans have the holes but others don't, best to check your car before buying the hitch.

                Phyiscally it is much closer to the ground than the Hayman Reese tow hitch, so it bottoms out quite often when offroading or driving up a steep driveway.
                MY12 Tiguan 132TSI + DSG

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                • #53
                  The problem with using non compliant stuff comes in when you perhaps lend the car to someone and they dont know its only a bike rack and hook a trailer full of gravel on the thing.

                  It rips out ,hits a car and kills someone.

                  A how would you feel and B could your pocket stand the cost if they sue you. Also if you sell it and the buyer thinks its a full towbar.

                  The bracket may look strong enough but with the twisting forces exerted by a load on it may well cause the panel it is fitted to to fail.

                  Put a proper towbar on it and be safe.

                  I have seen bikes lying on the road along with inadequate mountings after having been subjected to bad roads.

                  When you hit a bump an engineer estimated that the load becomes up to 7 times its static weight

                  Something to consider
                  2021 Kamiq LE 110 , Moon White, BV cameras F & B
                  Mamba Ebike to replace Tiguan

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                  • #54
                    I think it would be the same way to install OEM or third party tow bar/hitch - bolt into four holes covered by rear bumper.
                    Unless the installation is totally different.
                    Anyone had experience with that?
                    2011 TIGUAN 125 TSI . NO OPTION . DIY AUTO HEADLIGHT . DIY RCD-510 . WAITING ON DNS-810 .
                    (8L/100KM . 62000KM)

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                    • #55
                      As z1000 said, some Tiguans have the rear bumper that you can just bolt this mount to - generally the Tigs released in the last year or so I believe. Others, like mine, require a full-on replacement.

                      It is really easy to check whether your vehicle has the appropriate bumper or not. Climb under the rear fender with a craft knife - you will see the piece of plastic that needs to be cut out as it is nicely marked out for you (groove pressed into the plastic). Use the craft knife to cut that piece out and you will see if there are the mounting holes or not. If you have the holes, then you do this nice cheap and easy hitch holder install.

                      If there are no holes, then you're looking at needing a whole towbar install. Even if you need a whole new bumber towbar assembly you'll need to cut that piece of plastic out, and once it is cut out it cannot be seen anyway as it is under the bumper. I was lucky enough to get mine off eBay pretty cheap, had a mate help me fit it (which wasn't as difficult as I thought it would be). I then got a wiring harness from the UK for lights.

                      I'm not going to lecture you on the limitations/legality/etc of the simple bolt-on solution as you're a grown up capable of making your own informed decisions. I would advise you to check that whatever bike carrier you get does not hold the bicycle such that your Tiguan brake lights and indicators are obscured, coz the coppers will nail you... as well as it not being safe.

                      IMO, if you're just going to use it for a bike rack the cheap solution will be more than adequate to hold a bike or two - after all it's safe enough to pull loaded trailers in the US. As for someone using your car and putting a trailer on, they will soon realise there's no electrics so that should put them off using a trailer. If it doesn't then they are the idiots. Just do your homework before heading down this route I guess.
                      Last edited by Arctra; 03-07-2013, 07:22 PM.
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                      Avg 7.63L/100km over 189,000kms

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                      • #56
                        Thank you guys for all the information and advice provided. Really appreciate.
                        Tig is solely driven by myself and only reason I want to install a hitch is for transporting two bikes.
                        I will be very careful to choose a bike rack as Arctra suggested, not to obscure the brake lights and indicators.
                        Any hint what bike rack suits Tig best?
                        2011 TIGUAN 125 TSI . NO OPTION . DIY AUTO HEADLIGHT . DIY RCD-510 . WAITING ON DNS-810 .
                        (8L/100KM . 62000KM)

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by kzhao19 View Post
                          Tig is solely driven by myself and only reason I want to install a hitch is for transporting two bikes.
                          I will be very careful to choose a bike rack as Arctra suggested, not to obscure the brake lights and indicators.
                          Any hint what bike rack suits Tig best?
                          BTW you don't need to to cut a hole on the bumper to see mounting points, you can visually inspect them by getting dirty on the ground with a mirror and a torch.

                          Regardless of the type of hitch bike rack you get:
                          - you will need a bicycle plate from RTA(?) (or ACT equivalent). There is a hefty fine for a DIY plate, and using your car number plate on the rack is an offence as well.
                          - your bike(s) will obscure brake and indicator lights, cops do pull people over even when lights are visible through bike wheels ($3xx fine), so you have to install towing electrics.
                          - the bike plate will need to be illuminated at night as well.

                          What kind of bikes will you be carrying? I may be able to tell you my experience. To date, I am yet to find a best bike rack:
                          - $100~$400, inverted 'L' hanger is quick and easy but bikes can bounce around and damage paint job (you will curse speed bumps), and it is not suitable for carbon road bikes.
                          - $500 ~ $800, platform with wheel holders takes longer to install, and securing a female/children bike frame is fiddly, more expensive but some come with brake and turn signals, also carbon bike friendly.
                          - $700+, roof racks do not require a tow bar, electrics and number plate, but have a big impact on noise and fuel consumption on the freeway. Road and x-country bikes are okay to mount, but all mountain and downhill bikes are not so ideal.
                          MY12 Tiguan 132TSI + DSG

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Hillbilly View Post
                            When you hit a bump an engineer estimated that the load becomes up to 7 times its static weight

                            Something to consider
                            Definitely. In vehicle engineering, impact loads for things like seats and seat belt anchorages are actually designed for 20 G deceleration. The same would go for towing components. It is not just the load but the energy that goes with it.

                            As you say, it is what someone else might do. If a vehicle has a braked towing capacity of say 2 tonnes, then the towing hitch must be designed for that load as it is what a vehicle user could attach. Even if most people would tow the lower unbraked load, you still have to design for the higher load.

                            Oh, and before people say that they have towed higher loads "safely", just because something has a nominated safe working load does not mean that putting just a little more on is going to see things fall in a heap. The safe working load has a safety factor built in, and then there are various load factors. Also, the capacity of the material uses a value that the material supplier guarantees it will not go below. The actual material capacity is generally well above this value. This goes for anything you do to a car. There are safety factors (also called factors of ignorance) that are used to ensure the integrity of systems. You never want to eat into these factors as you never know when you are going to rely on them being available in their entirety
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by kzhao19 View Post
                              Thank you guys for all the information and advice provided. Really appreciate.
                              Tig is solely driven by myself and only reason I want to install a hitch is for transporting two bikes.
                              I will be very careful to choose a bike rack as Arctra suggested, not to obscure the brake lights and indicators.
                              Any hint what bike rack suits Tig best?
                              I use a platform rack (with our Outback & Captiva) with accessory lights & numberplate. Bought from Torpedo7 but there are other suppliers & better platform racks than what I bought.
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