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  • #16
    Originally posted by sunilr1 View Post
    Personally think stop/start tech is excellent. Saves fuel engine re-starts instantly and none of the cars systems go off line, air con, lights etc.. all keep running, thanx to the heavy duty battery and brake energy recovery system. Noticed the engine will restart sometimes before the brake is released, probably due to the battery getting a bit low, smart stuff
    It is relatively smart, if the air temp goes up to a set point, it will restart the engine to stop the cabing getting too hot. But I'd still argue the fuel cost saving v. wear and tear and cost of battery etc, and still think it's just plain dangerous. There's no way it can start and get you off the line in under a couple of seconds, and by that stage it's probably too late.

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    • #17
      Plain dangerous is a bit strong I think. Doesn't take a couple of secs As soon as pressure of the pedal is reduced engine starts. Wear and tear is perception, it is designed for the system, ie heavy duty battery and brake energy regen to keep batt charged. If u r worried about wear and tear keep it in the garage, only joking!
      Current: MkVI Golf GTI. Tiguan 162 Highline Pure white, DAP/Rline/Sun.
      Gone: Tiguan 103TDI.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by sunilr1 View Post
        Plain dangerous is a bit strong I think. Doesn't take a couple of secs As soon as pressure of the pedal is reduced engine starts. Wear and tear is perception, it is designed for the system, ie heavy duty battery and brake energy regen to keep batt charged. If u r worried about wear and tear keep it in the garage, only joking!
        Agree, probably a bit strong, but my experience does highlight the potential dangers with the system - every second can be important. I really doubt any financial saving though, especially factoring additonal cost of battery etc. Which kind of makes the system a bit reduntant. I'd much prefer a reversing camera as standard, rather than 'Bluemotion' - it's really just a marketing strategy IMHO.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by clip View Post
          I'd much prefer a reversing camera as standard, rather than 'Bluemotion' - it's really just a marketing strategy IMHO.
          The reason why we have electric cars, hybrid cars, and stop/start technology is so that manufacturers can meet the US Fleet Average Gas Mileage requirements. All this means is that while performing the official drive cycle, the vehicle achieves the required gas mileage so the manufacturer does not get heavy fines.
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          • #20
            Hmm, that AGM Varta battery will last looong time (probably a better financial benefit than a few dollars saved on the fuel) in my daughter's Tig, she already made a habit (in less than 3days) to switch it off as soon as she starts. I checked in VCDS and it should be possible to permanently turn it off. Other handy things in VCDS that I noticed are; the counter for - how many times was car started, how many auto re-starts, which could be handy in the case when your DPF fails (the technician can see if you do a lot of city driving). Yeh, and a lot of other info about the battery incl. capacity and aging,
            Last edited by Transporter; 13-02-2012, 11:45 AM.
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            • #21
              Just spent a month driving a Merc with start-stop, was interesting, but largely pointless in urban traffic as it was rare to have a long traffic light where the a/c wasn't on, or rear demist or something that would start the engine again after 15 seconds
              TDI tiguan in the drive. ParkAssist, comfort, fogs
              Service every 15,000, new fault code every 7,500km

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              • #22
                DELETED- dumb me
                Last edited by turbice; 28-02-2012, 07:00 PM.

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                • #23
                  Just got my new MY 2012 TDI Tiggy yesterday and took it for a spin. Got stuck in horrible Sydney CBD traffic and i have been very impressed with the stop start tech technology. I can honestly say the engine was off for > 1 min or so in traffic. Could have been longer. Didnt really time it. That's with stereo, air con, bi xeons on. The engine definitely didn't kick start after 15 secs as most forum users have stated. It really does help when you sit in Sydney traffic.
                  Tiguan 2012 2.0 TDI Bluemotion Pepper Grey Metallic
                  Comfort Line Pack | Bi-Xenon with LED DDL | Fog Lamps | Leather pack
                  Panoramic Sunroof | Park Assist 2.0 | Mud Flaps | 18" New York Alloy Wheels

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                  • #24
                    Possibly a dumb question, however as I have only had my car for a couple of weeks I am finding "new stuff" every day.

                    So, should I want to turn Blue Motion off, is there a button/switch/selection that I can make to do so in my MY12 132TSI Pacific?

                    I wouldn't mind trying it switched off to see if I can tell ther difference .

                    Thanks in advance.
                    2012 MY12.5 132 Pacific 6sp Manual - Deep Black

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                    • #25
                      There are 2 switched in front of gearshift. One turns off blue motion , other ESP.
                      Both reset to ON ever time you actually turn off ignition.
                      Dealer should have told you all this.
                      Tiguan MY12 118TSI, white, no frills..... Had ANS810 ... Note the HAD ..... Now got RCD510 supplemented by 7" Android TomTom mounted on a HoldMyPhone .... Upgraded speakers Vibe BlackAir front splits and MBQuartz 12" ported sub driven from Infinity Reference 5350a amp .... oh and added fun

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Mullos View Post
                        Possibly a dumb question, however as I have only had my car for a couple of weeks I am finding "new stuff" every day.

                        So, should I want to turn Blue Motion off, is there a button/switch/selection that I can make to do so in my MY12 132TSI Pacific?

                        I wouldn't mind trying it switched off to see if I can tell ther difference .

                        Thanks in advance.
                        My daughter always turns it OFF when she gets in the car and despite of that, she still gets amazing fuel economy of 6.5L/100km, city driving and short trips (TDI Tig with DSG). To me the battery(AGM)/startermotor and ring gear on the fly wheel wear just for the sake of the 0.1L or 0.2L fuel saving every 100km is not worth it. She plans to keep the car for 8-10 years.
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                        • #27
                          Unfortunately my dealer gave me my key, and said "You'll be right" and sent me on my way. True story.

                          From memory the only switches in front of the gear shift are for park assist, warning sensors and one other. I don't see any others, or am I either looking in the wrong spot, or am I blind?

                          Any advice would be appreciated.
                          2012 MY12.5 132 Pacific 6sp Manual - Deep Black

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Mullos View Post
                            Unfortunately my dealer gave me my key, and said "You'll be right" and sent me on my way. True story.

                            From memory the only switches in front of the gear shift are for park assist, warning sensors and one other. I don't see any others, or am I either looking in the wrong spot, or am I blind?

                            Any advice would be appreciated.
                            Oops ... obviously the dealer also didn't mention to you that 132TSI doesn't come with BlueMotion technology.

                            But surely you're not imagining your Tig's start/stop. So very strange.
                            Last edited by aussietig; 14-05-2012, 11:17 PM.
                            MY11 Tiguan 147TSI (SOLD)

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                            • #29
                              bluemotion only available in 118tsi or tdi

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                              • #30
                                Well spotted! LOL
                                Plus I didn't actually know that.

                                I too am wondering if it's actually worth it.

                                If anyone finds the way to permanently turn it off I would probably do it.

                                ---------- Post added at 08:17 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:13 AM ----------

                                And that dealer deserves 'outing'.
                                He's paid to do that. Actually, you paid him to do that. I would demand a % of your dealer delivery costs back.....

                                I know it can be boring to have an 18 year old tell you how to start a car but that 30 mins adds to the excitement of driving off the dealers lot and there are one or two important things he should tell you, like if your car has Bluemotion or not.
                                Last edited by whiskywallah; 15-05-2012, 08:18 AM. Reason: Spelling
                                Tiguan MY12 118TSI, white, no frills..... Had ANS810 ... Note the HAD ..... Now got RCD510 supplemented by 7" Android TomTom mounted on a HoldMyPhone .... Upgraded speakers Vibe BlackAir front splits and MBQuartz 12" ported sub driven from Infinity Reference 5350a amp .... oh and added fun

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