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  • #16
    Originally posted by velly_16v_cab View Post
    i am not sure if this helps but for those of you who know me (i dont normally post in this section) will know i work for Ford.
    This is my thoughts of why it is telling you to run a higher gear than you think as we do the same here in ford.
    One of our new engines runs off boost, it is to keep the emissions down. (below 1500 rpm) Yes it seems the engine is struggling but it is the best for emissions. (so i have been told)
    I question this on a recent drive event but i was told that this is the best way to help the engine and transmission meet their targets. (i was driving an auto at the time)
    I agree that it is probably set to show the best emissions/economy.
    It was saying i should be in 6th at 60km/h today...........

    Generally it tells you to change up if you sit on anything over 2,000RPM but it isn't worth changing up imo until you are at 3,000 otherwise it really sounds like it struggles.
    My Tiguan TSI APR Stg2 + RPF1's

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    • #17
      It's all a load of bollocks IMHO, and is purely for what Velly says - all about emissions. I'd be getting my dealer to turn it off.

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      • #18
        The gear selection system seems fine. I have the 103TDI manual so my experiences are based on this...

        The gear selection seems to want to keep you at around 1250rpm. Below this point, the engine will start to struggle. At 1000rpm the engine is struggling. I haven't tried it, but it'll probably stall at around 700rpm.

        The gear selection system does not know the driving conditions you are in or the terrain you are approaching, therefore it can only make its recommendations based on current gear, rpm and throttle position.

        If i'm doing a constant 80kph in 5th on a flat road, it will ask me to change to 6th. However, if I put my foot down or get to a hill it no longer wants me to change up.

        No reason to sit at 2000+ rpm if you're cruising on the open road.. seems to be working as intended!
        2010 Tiguan - 103TDI Manual

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        • #19
          Originally posted by team_v View Post
          Generally it tells you to change up if you sit on anything over 2,000RPM but it isn't worth changing up imo until you are at 3,000 otherwise it really sounds like it struggles.
          really? Team V with the 190 TSI there is just tons of torque at 2000rpm (about 350nm). Sure if you change up then the engine will drop back to about 1500rpm, and if you floor it it wont respond that well and may sound like struggling. But even at 1500rpm I have found the response quite adequate without any sign of struggle as long as I dont expect major acceleration. So depends on how much throttle.

          Of course at 2500 upwards thats where things really start to boogie, but there is so much torque below that, you dont need to go above 2000-2500 unless you want things to happen very quickly

          I have just let the car idle in 4th and it gets along fine and then even accelerated from idle in 4th! up to speed and even that extreme is OK (ie no obvious engine complaint) as long as throttle use matches likely throttle response at those revs. All Tigs will be roughly the same, just the throttle response a bit different. Its just that the 190 TSI is especially strong right from idle.
          Tiguan TSI Catalina blue, Manual

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          • #20
            Originally posted by jimbomort View Post
            really? Team V with the 190 TSI there is just tons of torque at 2000rpm (about 350nm). Sure if you change up then the engine will drop back to about 1500rpm, and if you floor it it wont respond that well and may sound like struggling. But even at 1500rpm I have found the response quite adequate without any sign of struggle as long as I dont expect major acceleration. So depends on how much throttle.

            Of course at 2500 upwards thats where things really start to boogie, but there is so much torque below that, you dont need to go above 2000-2500 unless you want things to happen very quickly

            I have just let the car idle in 4th and it gets along fine and then even accelerated from idle in 4th! up to speed and even that extreme is OK (ie no obvious engine complaint) as long as throttle use matches likely throttle response at those revs. All Tigs will be roughly the same, just the throttle response a bit different. Its just that the 190 TSI is especially strong right from idle.
            it might have been mine still running in as it seems a bit better now.
            It is happy to cruise along at 1500RPm and will comfortably do 60km in 5th gear.

            I still find it isn't worth changing gears until you get to 2000RPM as the revs will drop to 1500 if you do it then and you can still drive without it sounding like it's struggling.
            My Tiguan TSI APR Stg2 + RPF1's

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