How much should I pay... Tiguan pricing.

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Few udates.
I saw a press release about future vw models and it stated 2015 for the Tig II
Will try and find a link to the story.

there's an awefull lot of info in that link that scares me like:

"The new mid-size sedan due in 2011 will be larger but less expensive than the current Passat and will emphasize size and value over autobahn breeding. A VW executive in Wolfsburg told us: “U.S. customers look at size and engine displacement. They won’t pay an extra dollar for a Passat over a Camry just because of its finesse and attention to detail.”

and then this:

"And while VW might be eyeing Chrysler’s lost sales in the U.S., the global targets are more ambitious: Winterkorn seems determined to take on Toyota".

It's pretty common knowldge that the reason Toyota has stuffed up badly over the last few years is because of their sole ambition to be number one world's biggest car seller - at the expensive of quality.

I wonder how that thinking will translate across to Audi etc?

[team_v]

there's an awefull lot of info in that link that scares me like:

"The new mid-size sedan due in 2011 will be larger but less expensive than the current Passat and will emphasize size and value over autobahn breeding. A VW executive in Wolfsburg told us: “U.S. customers look at size and engine displacement. They won’t pay an extra dollar for a Passat over a Camry just because of its finesse and attention to detail.”

and then this:

"And while VW might be eyeing Chrysler’s lost sales in the U.S., the global targets are more ambitious: Winterkorn seems determined to take on Toyota".

It's pretty common knowldge that the reason Toyota has stuffed up badly over the last few years is because of their sole ambition to be number one world's biggest car seller - at the expensive of quality.

I wonder how that thinking will translate across to Audi etc?

The mid size sedan is the American built - america domestic market sedan.
It is purely being built for their insatiable need for obsenely large cars.


We will see how vw goes at being number one.

[sawters]

TDI Tiguan - What to pay?

Hi all

What is the bottom price i should pay for a

Tiguan
TDI
Auto
white
Comf pack
Fog lights

I am by the way intitled to the coorp discount

cheers

[sawters]

Is this a good deal?

he all


Tiguan
TDI
Auto
comf pack
fogs

$40800 drive away?


GOOD DEAL?

[team_v]

he all
Tiguan
TDI
Auto
comf pack
fogs
$40800 drive away?

GOOD DEAL?

$40,911 base drive away price (38,968 according to discountnewcars)
+2,500 (auto)
+1,000 (comfort pack)
+400 (fogs)

44,811 Drive away or 42,868 through discountnewcars.

10% off total drive away price is okay but you had corporate discount so that is the 10% right away.
I would see if you can get them to go down a bit further or chuck in window tinting for free to seal the deal.

[Svirala]

Re:Is this a good deal?

I would personally consider it as a good deal. I picked up a 125TSi few weeks ago for $40,500 dw (metallic paint, auto, rear sens. and fully tinted) but without fleet/corp disc.
But like Team v said, whatever extra you manage to add in would make the deal even better.

[team_v]

I would personally consider it as a good deal. I picked up a 125TSi few weeks ago for $40,500 dw (metallic paint, auto, rear sens. and fully tinted) but without fleet/corp disc.
But like Team v said, whatever extra you manage to add in would make the deal even better.

The thing is, corp discount should be close to 10% price drop anyway so i think you could haggle a bit more on top of that.
Even if it's only haggling extra's on top like MDI/floormats/window tint or extended warranty to get a bit more value for money.

[midlifecrisis]

Could we get the spreadsheet updated for the Adaptive Chassis Control?

[Sanman]

Could we get the spreadsheet updated for the Adaptive Chassis Control?

The spreadsheet is editable, and changes will remain - add it in

[sawters]

unreasonable or not? Tiguan price

Hey all

i have been quoted $40800 for the following drive away ( inc COORP disc)

Tiguan
TDI
White
Auto
comf pack
fogs

Would it be unreasonable to ask for $40000 drive away - BUT

but also include mats and MDI?

not sure what angle to take when neg with the sales man - ideas welcomed!

cheers

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not sure what angle to take when neg with the sales man - ideas welcomed! cheers

Use your head not your heart. Salespeople know most people buy with their heart/emotions not their heads. They have techiniques that bring that on with buyers. But the good ones will soon pick up on the people that resist that and, IME, won't waste any more time with goiong down that road.

A good way to cut through that quickly is this procedure that always works for me:

1. First you need to be absolutley sure of how much you think the car is worth to you, and how much you are prepared to pay for it.

2. You then have to be absolutely prepared to walk away if you can't get to that point.

3. Then go in and literally put your credit card down in front of him/her. Be pleasant, but not overly friendly - they want you to like them as a nice person. Remeber this is a business negotiation, not a speed dating service! Tell them exactly what you want and what you will pay for it (that will be a little less than your get up and walk out price point). They will most likely want to negotiate, and you will of course have already factored that in to your first offer.

4. Let them come back with their offer, and then go in with your final offer. DO NOT negotiate past your absolutes (price, options etc).

5. This negotiation process should not take more than a minute or 2. Don't stuff around, and most of them don't want to either. If they know you are serious about buying today, they will want to tie you up quickly.

6. If they won't move, pick up your credit card, thank them and walk out.

It may take 2 or 3 delaers, but you will get your deal eventually (as long as it is reasonable of course). Remember too, that the salespeople know this procedure and how it works to your advantage, but if they are chasing sales (end of the month can often give better results for buyers), then you might just get exactly what you want.

Good luck.

[sawters]

thanks

Use your head not your heart. Salespeople know most people buy with their heart/emotions not their heads. They have techiniques that bring that on with buyers. But the good ones will soon pick up on the people that resist that and, IME, won't waste any more time with goiong down that road.

A good way to cut through that quickly is this procedure that always works for me:

1. First you need to be absolutley sure of how much you think the car is worth to you, and how much you are prepared to pay for it.

2. You then have to be absolutely prepared to walk away if you can't get to that point.

3. Then go in and literally put your credit card down in front of him/her. Be pleasant, but not overly friendly - they want you to like them as a nice person. Remeber this is a business negotiation, not a speed dating service! Tell them exactly what you want and what you will pay for it (that will be a little less than your get up and walk out price point). They will most likely want to negotiate, and you will of course have already factored that in to your first offer.

4. Let them come back with their offer, and then go in with your final offer. DO NOT negotiate past your absolutes (price, options etc).

5. This negotiation process should not take more than a minute or 2. Don't stuff around, and most of them don't want to either. If they know you are serious about buying today, they will want to tie you up quickly.

6. If they won't move, pick up your credit card, thank them and walk out.

It may take 2 or 3 delaers, but you will get your deal eventually (as long as it is reasonable of course). Remember too, that the salespeople know this procedure and how it works to your advantage, but if they are chasing sales (end of the month can often give better results for buyers), then you might just get exactly what you want.

Good luck.

Thanks for this, excatly the advise i needed

[Transporter]

Also don't let the negotiating price of your new car to ruin your buying experience and the good relation ship with your dealer.

[TENKAN]

Very sound advice there from Sawters!

I've just been through this in negotiations for my 147, knew what I could afford before I even thought about visting a dealer and started my dealings with them based on a discount of 15%. Three weeks later and the deal is struck for all that I asked for at under $60k.

[Thal]

Added this to the spreadsheet - a white Tiguan with comfortpack, fog lights and OFT for $36000 from Barloworld.