ABT Tune 213kW

[sVWatt]

Anyone added a stage I to their Tig?
Had a mate who added the ABT harness to his S3, and had fun results.
Wondered if anyone had treated themselves for their Tig...

ABT Sportsline car configurator

[tigger73]

This isn't stage 1 tune - it's a tuning box. If I was to get a tuning box I'd be going with a JB4 - lots of people runnig these on MQB platform cars here on the forum.

A proper stage 1 tune on a 162TSI will take it up to ~235kw.

[NZ_GolfR]

Am I seeing the price correctly..... 2.290,00 €

ABT Sportsline Onlineshop | ABT - LEISTUNGSSTEIGERUNG | online kaufen

For a fraction of that price I would much rather get a proper ECU stage 1 tune or go with a JB4.

[sVWatt]

So a JB4 box will give 200kW without any other mods. Certainly looks good value.
BMS VW GTI JB4 info thread - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum

[popeye]

This isn't stage 1 tune - it's a tuning box. If I was to get a tuning box I'd be going with a JB4 - lots of people runnig these on MQB platform cars here on the forum.

A proper stage 1 tune on a 162TSI will take it up to ~235kw.

What is a proper stage 1 tune and what would one expect to pay?
Any reputable tuner shops in Melbourne?

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[essy670]

What is a proper stage 1 tune and what would one expect to pay?
Any reputable tuner shops in Melbourne?

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[tigger73]

ABT Tune 213kW

By "proper" I mean an ECU flash tune as opposed to a tuning box which changes the signals being sent to the ECU running the stock software.

There's a few options if you're in Melbourne - RD Technik, APR, Revo, E-tuners and probably a few more all have dealers there.

Cost will probably vary a little between brands/workshops but I'd budget on $1000-$1500.




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[popeye]

By "proper" I mean an ECU flash tune as opposed to a tuning box which changes the signals being sent to the ECU running the stock software.

There's a few options if you're in Melbourne - RD Technik, APR, Revo, E-tuners and probably a few more all have dealers there.

Cost will probably vary a little between brands/workshops but I'd budget on $1000-$1500.




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So im i reading this right ?
70 odd kw with a tune,and no hardware for 1500 bucks ?

230kw for a tigg puts it right past a stock R for next to nothing


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[spacemannz]

Wouldn’t it be neat if VW would offer different tunes/mapping’s as a paid upgrade! Tesla do it.
They would likely charge a premium to mitigate any warranty issues, but I’m sure some would pay - some of the aftermarket products cost an appreciable percentage of the vehicle purchase price.

[tigger73]

So im i reading this right ?
70 odd kw with a tune,and no hardware for 1500 bucks ?

230kw for a tigg puts it right past a stock R for next to nothing


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Correct. But if the Golf R tunes his he's up to 270kwaw....

Yes bang for buck a stage 1 tune is great value.


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[popeye]

Correct. But if the Golf R tunes his he's up to 270kwaw....

Yes bang for buck a stage 1 tune is great value.


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Yeah it sure is

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[GeeMoney]

I Would have my doubts on pushing another 70kw from the engine without any hardware changes. The clutch, turbo and stuff are definitely not prepared for that extra load just by a software change.
I contacted a very decent Dutch tuner and they can pull out around 35-40kw with a proper engine specific ECU stage2 tune.

And I think that also is the case because in The Netherlands they dont sell the 180bhp diesel but it's downtuned to 150bhp.(due to emission and laws)

[NZ_GolfR]

I Would have my doubts on pushing another 70kw from the engine without any hardware changes. The clutch, turbo and stuff are definitely not prepared for that extra load just by a software change.
I contacted a very decent Dutch tuner and they can pull out around 35-40kw with a proper engine specific ECU stage2 tune.

And I think that also is the case because in The Netherlands they dont sell the 180bhp diesel but it's downtuned to 150bhp.(due to emission and laws)

No, they are talking about the 162kw (220ps) TSI engine which is the same engine and turbo as what is in the Golf GTI which can easily handle an extra 70kw without any hardware changes.

The gear box in the Tiguan (the DQ500) is also much stronger than what is in the Golf and can handle much more power without any issues with clutch slipping like what the Golf can get.


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[Sanman]

How is the Series 2 Tiguan 162kW engine different from the Series 2 Tiguan 132kW engine?
In the first series Tiguan, I thought the 132kW engine was a detuned version of the 155kW engine which was used on the then-Golf V GTi?

[tigger73]

How is the Series 2 Tiguan 162kW engine different from the Series 2 Tiguan 132kW engine?
In the first series Tiguan, I thought the 132kW engine was a detuned version of the 155kW engine which was used on the then-Golf V GTi?

First gen the 125/132TSI was a detuned version of the 147/155TSI.

Second gen they've worked out that people were buying the cheaper car and tuning it. So the 132TSI in the gen2 is a different engine to the 162TSI - compression ratio is significantly different betwen the 2. So it's no longer just software.