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  • #61
    Originally posted by JB286 View Post
    Been away from the forums for a bit because of work and sport but have now put 2000k's on the clock and figured I could contribute to this thread.

    Cons
    The DSG lag between 1000 and 2000 RPMs is really annoying. I am sure it will take some time for me to adapt but when I try to accelerate or add some gentle power it feels very sluggish and slow to respond. Then once it hits 2000 RPM it accelerates very quickly and with a bit of a lurch. This is in Normal drive mode but Sport mode sometimes has this as well.
    Gear selection of the DSG is slightly annoying. When I go to turn corners it sometimes has 3rd gear selected despite the RPM's being quite low. Then as I go to accelerate out of the corner it has to downshift and there is a delay until the RPM's spool up again.
    The infotainment system is terrible. Loading up the navigation system can take around 3-4 minutes until it decides where you are and it won't let you enter a destination in while this is happening. If a phone is connected by USB just after starting the car, it takes forever to get music playing and to start Apple Car Play. If the system was playing Bluetooth music when the car was shut down then it takes a very long time to get any sort of music playing the next time and it actually defaults back to looking for music out of the AUX port. Compared to other systems I have used it is extremely slow and frustrating.
    Related to the infotainment system is that in the AID when Apple Car Play is selected and Music is playing, it doesn't show track name or artist. It just says Apple Car Play and is pretty much useless. When Apple CarPlay does initialise, getting back to the menu screen when you go to Nav or Car is way more confusing than it needs to be as well.

    I don't know what processor or system processes are in the infotainment system but it is well below par for the price point of the car and who they are trying to compete against. In this day and age these types of systems should just work and work seamlessly.

    Sensors are so inaccurately calibrated that I don't even bother using them anymore. I trust my mirrors and the camera.

    Pros
    Sport mode - enough said. Wish I could keep it there all the time
    Space - Boot is a great size and the different configurations makes it so versatile. I spent 2 hours in the back seat these weekend and found it very comfortable and the tray tables perfect for doing work on a laptop
    Ride comfort - Even in Sport mode, it is very comfortable and liveable throughout city and/or highway driving.
    Active Cruise Control - Amazing, great for stop start traffic and even better with highway driving

    Overall the infotainment issues are really annoying me as is the DSG lag, it hasn't lived up to the expectations I had of the car but it certainly is still a good car.
    Thanks for the feedback.
    Which variant do you have?

    2017 Tiguan 162TSI Highline/R-Line
    2017 Audi S3

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    • #62
      Originally posted by JB286 View Post
      Overall the infotainment issues are really annoying me as is the DSG lag, it hasn't lived up to the expectations I had of the car but it certainly is still a good car.
      Which engine do you have?
      I love real user experience posts.
      There are things you can only know after living with them for a while.

      Disappointed to hear about the Infotainment system which I've always been unsure about.


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      • #63
        I don't know if this affects our series 2 Tiguans but I came across a Series 1 Tiguan stuck at a petrol pump. Apparently he had a flat battery and the electric hand brake was jammed on. He could not put it into neutral and release the hand brake to roll it away from the pump. He was stuck there until the NRMA came with a set of jumper leads.

        Are we going to have the same trouble if we get a flat battery?

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        Ordered: 2017 build date Tiguan 162 TSI Highline with DAP in Tungsten Silver and rear luggage tray. ETA: late April / Early May. I did not have to wait. I took delivery on 11 March 2017.

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        • #64
          I have a series 1 - 2015 Tiguan 130TDI and tested the release of electric handbrake and putting car in Neutral by only having ignition + pressing brake pedal and works. Maybe battery didn't have enough juice to perform the job.

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          MY15 TIGUAN 130TDI R-LINE - Pepper Grey, Panoramic Sunroof

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Delewin View Post
            I don't know if this affects our series 2 Tiguans but I came across a Series 1 Tiguan stuck at a petrol pump. Apparently he had a flat battery and the electric hand brake was jammed on. He could not put it into neutral and release the hand brake to roll it away from the pump. He was stuck there until the NRMA came with a set of jumper leads.

            Are we going to have the same trouble if we get a flat battery?

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            Yes it's a fact of electronic hand brakes and flat batteries. Would happen the same to a Mazda, Subaru, BMW or any other car that has an electronic park brake.

            2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

            2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
            2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
            2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
            - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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            • #66
              Originally posted by cvee View Post
              Which engine do you have?
              I love real user experience posts.
              There are things you can only know after living with them for a while.

              Disappointed to hear about the Infotainment system which I've always been unsure about.


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              I have the 162TSI with R Line Pack, the infotainment system is certainly a big con in my opinion but hopefully this can be resolved with software updates.

              I know that the upcoming iOS 10.3 will have some changes to the Car Play interface, hopefully there are a couple of other improvements

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              • #67
                Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
                Yes it's a fact of electronic hand brakes and flat batteries. Would happen the same to a Mazda, Subaru, BMW or any other car that has an electronic park brake.
                Not a Landrover Discovery! They have a removable cover that, once removed, lets you access a release mechanism...
                2015 Jetta Highline
                2017 Ducati Supersport S

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by JB286 View Post

                  Cons
                  The infotainment system is terrible. Loading up the navigation system can take around 3-4 minutes until it decides where you are and it won't let you enter a destination in while this is happening. If a phone is connected by USB just after starting the car, it takes forever to get music playing and to start Apple Car Play.
                  Thanks for sharing! Out of interest, are you using an aftermarket lightning cord or an Apple cord?This may not be correct, however I have heard it may make a difference as Apple gives preference to branded accessories...? Does anyone know if this is true?
                  Annoying to hear the MBii is poorly executed. This will be my first VW... I am not looking forward to living with the interface... it was already annoying me on the test drive.

                  Can you receive software updates from the dealer? If so, what are the release cycles?
                  VW first timer.
                  2017 Tiguan 162 Highline :: Sunroof :: DAP :: R
                  *April delivery

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by JB286 View Post

                    Cons
                    Apple Car Play.
                    ..also, what model iphone are you using?
                    Not sure if this makes a difference.
                    VW first timer.
                    2017 Tiguan 162 Highline :: Sunroof :: DAP :: R
                    *April delivery

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by vwnc View Post
                      ..also, what model iphone are you using?
                      Not sure if this makes a difference.
                      I have an iPhone 7 and (pretty sure) I am using a 50cm Apple branded USB-A to Lightning Cable that I got from the Apple Store.

                      I have heard that the cables can impact it so I might try some other MFi cables I have lying around. The 50cm one is a perfect length though. I also wonder if it can be impacted by when I plug the phone in, as in at what stage of the infotainment's initialisation, and see if that impacts it.

                      It is extremely annoying, I was hoping it would be a lot more instantaneous so that I can be playing my music from my phone from where I left off when I shut the car down rather than waiting for it to re-connect and start up again. Throw in the change to the rear view camera which interrupts the start up process and it can be close to 5 minutes before I get to hear any music after starting up.

                      The Apple Car Play setup is actually more annoying at the moment than useful and ideally I would prefer to just stream music rather than plugin, hopefully this changes.

                      Would be keen to hear of anyone else's experiences.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by JB286 View Post
                        I have an iPhone 7 and (pretty sure) I am using a 50cm Apple branded USB-A to Lightning Cable that I got from the Apple Store.

                        I have heard that the cables can impact it so I might try some other MFi cables I have lying around. The 50cm one is a perfect length though. I also wonder if it can be impacted by when I plug the phone in, as in at what stage of the infotainment's initialisation, and see if that impacts it.

                        It is extremely annoying, I was hoping it would be a lot more instantaneous so that I can be playing my music from my phone from where I left off when I shut the car down rather than waiting for it to re-connect and start up again. Throw in the change to the rear view camera which interrupts the start up process and it can be close to 5 minutes before I get to hear any music after starting up.

                        The Apple Car Play setup is actually more annoying at the moment than useful and ideally I would prefer to just stream music rather than plugin, hopefully this changes.

                        Would be keen to hear of anyone else's experiences.
                        solid feedback! Yes would be great to hear the outcome of a few more tests... or other experiences (this will be my first vw, so not much to add yet). Either way, 5 mins is unacceptable... it takes me 10 to get to work!
                        VW first timer.
                        2017 Tiguan 162 Highline :: Sunroof :: DAP :: R
                        *April delivery

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                        • #72
                          Does anyone have any experiences with Android auto and Samsung S7 phones?

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                          Ordered: 2017 build date Tiguan 162 TSI Highline with DAP in Tungsten Silver and rear luggage tray. ETA: late April / Early May. I did not have to wait. I took delivery on 11 March 2017.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Delewin View Post
                            Does anyone have any experiences with Android auto and Samsung S7 phones?

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                            I tested my Nexus 5 with the Tiguan at the dealership and it seemed to work perfectly. No delay in the audio starting or anything like what has been reported with the iPhones.

                            2017 Tiguan 162TSI Highline/R-Line
                            2017 Audi S3

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by vwnc View Post
                              solid feedback! Yes would be great to hear the outcome of a few more tests... or other experiences (this will be my first vw, so not much to add yet). Either way, 5 mins is unacceptable... it takes me 10 to get to work!
                              So you have the same issue with an iPhone and Apple Car play?

                              2017 Tiguan 162TSI Highline/R-Line
                              2017 Audi S3

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                              • #75
                                Does anyone know if it possible to change the voice in the navigation program. For me she definitely is a con...
                                2017 Tiguan R Line 162TSI, DAP, White. Upgraded speakers.

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