Kodiaq seats in a Tiguan

[Guest001]

Just for you, because your attention span doesn't exceed 4 lines.



Or maybe you have a problem with writing in past and present tense?

Fair enough but you still did have them in for a (short/longer) while didnt you??????????????????

[brad]

Fair enough but you still did have them in for a (short/longer) while didnt you??????????????????

I did. 2 months.

As a person that regularly does quite high level risk assessments as part of my job I was happy to accept that the likelihood of an accident hadn't changed and the consequence had only slightly increased. As the only driver of the vehicle that level of risk wasn't transferred directly in any way.

You have to look at the bigger picture and how many holes in the swiss cheese will likely line up.

[Guest001]

I did. 2 months.

As a person that regularly does quite high level risk assessments as part of my job I was happy to accept that the likelihood of an accident hadn't changed and the consequence had only slightly increased. As the only driver of the vehicle that level of risk wasn't transferred directly in any way.

You have to look at the bigger picture and how many holes in the swiss cheese will likely line up.

Glad you dont do risk assessment for me. Having a car unroadworthy for 2 months is not my idea of a sensible thing to do, no matter how low you consider the risk.
Murphys law can often ruin what seems like a good idea in an instant.

Anyway your car your life but I prefer to remain legal and know I dont have to worry.

[brad]

Glad you dont do risk assessment for me. Having a car unroadworthy for 2 months is not my idea of a sensible thing to do, no matter how low you consider the risk.
Murphys law can often ruin what seems like a good idea in an instant.

Anyway your car your life but I prefer to remain legal and know I dont have to worry.

What I do with my personal life doesn't necessarily reflect my professional practices. A risk assessment is a collaborative document and nobody want's the Spanish inquisition.

Make sure you polish that halo every night.

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Kodiaq seats in a Tiguan

Lets consider risk from a consequence and likelihood perspective.

Before I turned 10 seatbelts weren't compulsory. People rarely wore seatbelts and many cars didn't have them fitted. I do remember Mum driving around the corner in an FB Holden and the door swung open and my Sister grabbed me to stop me from falling out. Luckily mum didn't carry a lot of speed through corners so it all happened slowly.

I was 15 when dad bought a car with seatbelts in the rear. The car even had radial tyres. There wasn't much more in terms of passive safety features.

IIRC airbags became common in "normal cars" around 1995 (just for the front occupants in the steering wheel and dashboard).

Side airbags common in plebs cars around 2005????

The Octy has airbags in the steering wheel, A-pillar, front seat and somewhere up the back for the rear seat. It also has side intrusion bars, a safety cell and pyrotechnic seat belt tensioners. Deleting the seat airbags increased the consequence by how much? The likelihood hasn't changed.

Given that I've managed more than 42 years of licence holding (and 8 years of driving cars & tractors / motorcycle riding prior to that) without any major crashes that weren't my fault, I think my likelihood of a crash, the likelihood and consequence rating are medium at worst.

Thanks for your concern.

Not sure what point you’re trying to make here… road safety has come ahead leaps and bounds even in the last 10 years. Let’s take a look at the road toll statistics over the last 60 years…

Year : Total deaths per 100,000 population:
- 1951 : 23.8
- 1960 : 24
- 1970 : 30.4 (the year seatbelts became compulsory in VIC)
- 1980 : 22.3
- 1990: 13.66
- 2000 : 9.49
- 2010 : 6.14
- 2015 : 5.08
- 2018 : 4.6
- 2020 : 4.32

If you consider how much less dense the population was even 20 years ago, those stats would likely be significantly higher if the population was what it was today back then…

I’d say you and your family are rather fortunate to have avoided a road fatality or serious injury. I for one know that if there is a safety feature that could have saved one of my loved ones from their unfortunate fates I would demand that in my car, and I do, e.g. AEB, ABS, airbags, seatbelts, the ADR, and regular safety checks.

Yes, people do stupid things and you can only do so much to help stupid, but I’d much prefer to have the safety features than not.


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[Guest001]

What I do with my personal life doesn't necessarily reflect my professional practices. A risk assessment is a collaborative document and nobody want's the Spanish inquisition.

Make sure you polish that halo every night.

No halo needed Just a big dose of common sense and thoughts about safety for me and my family

[brad]

I'm the only one that drove that car so you two can keep on making assumptions that are wrong.