Thinking of ditching the Tiguan....

[NZ_GolfR]

Congratulations on the purchase! You'll have to change your signature now

That Cupra Ateca will be even better with a stage 1 tune on it.

What gearbox does it run?

Yes, will have to update that when I’m next on my PC.

Good question, I hadn’t looked into what gearbox, I just assumed it was the same as the Tiguan as it just stated 7 Speed DSG, however it seems that I am wrong. By the looks of it from what I can find on the web it seems to be running the DQ381 which is the same as what’s in the Mk7.5 Golf R although I couldn’t find anything exactly confirming this. Do you know if it is possible to find out what it is using OBD11?

I definitely find it much smoother and quieter with it’s gear changes, I always found the DQ500 in the Tig a bit noisy, faint clunking sounds when driving slowly especially when lifting on and off the gas. Changing into 2nd most of the times wasn’t that smooth either if in manual mode.


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[tigger73]

Good question, I hadn’t looked into what gearbox, I just assumed it was the same as the Tiguan as it just stated 7 Speed DSG, however it seems that I am wrong. By the looks of it from what I can find on the web it seems to be running the DQ381 which is the same as what’s in the Mk7.5 Golf R although I couldn’t find anything exactly confirming this. Do you know if it is possible to find out what it is using OBD11?

I definitely find it much smoother and quieter with it’s gear changes, I always found the DQ500 in the Tig a bit noisy, faint clunking sounds when driving slowly especially when lifting on and off the gas. Changing into 2nd most of the times wasn’t that smooth either if in manual mode.

From Seat UK website: NEW CUPRA ATECA OPENS FOR ORDERING

"The CUPRA Ateca’s 2.0 TSI engine delivers 300 PS and 400NM of torque. This technologically advanced engine works with a newly designed Otto Particulate Filter System to fulfil the latest Emission Legislations. This engine comes with a powerful sound, and is equipped with a newly developed DQ381 7-speed DSG gearbox that has been developed to offer sportier gearbox feel with faster, smoother and more precise changes. The gearbox’s development has been modified to combine excellent performance with efficiency."

So my guess is it's the DQ381 that you've got which is why you've got smoother shifting. Just keep that in mind before planning any stage 3 turbo swaps

Yes the DQ500 is a bit "clunky" but I think that's partly due to it being built heavy duty so I don't mind the odd clunk in 1-2 gear change for the added peace of mind that I don't have a fragile transmission.

I think the DQ381 is a good option especially if you're not planning on doing towing. On that note do you know what the towing capacity is? This may give you a bit more of an idea that it's designed for passenger use only and nothing much more than putting a bike rack on the back (not that this is a problem - probably only a consideration for 5-10% of owners/potential owners).

[iDiesel]

I definitely find it much smoother and quieter with it’s gear changes, I always found the DQ500 in the Tig a bit noisy, faint clunking sounds when driving slowly especially when lifting on and off the gas. Changing into 2nd most of the times wasn’t that smooth either if in manual mode.

In a way I'm glad to read this as my experience is similar and I was wondering if that was just my DSG. Leaves me a little more reassured now.


BTW, looks like Australia has been reclassified from "hot and dusty" climate area to a "moderately hot country", meaning we may get higher performance cars/tunes form the VW stable - barring petrol quality issues.

2020 Skoda Kodiaq RS confirmed for Australia | CarAdvice

Could mean we see a Cupra model in AU?

[NZ_GolfR]

From Seat UK website: NEW CUPRA ATECA OPENS FOR ORDERING

"The CUPRA Ateca’s 2.0 TSI engine delivers 300 PS and 400NM of torque. This technologically advanced engine works with a newly designed Otto Particulate Filter System to fulfil the latest Emission Legislations. This engine comes with a powerful sound, and is equipped with a newly developed DQ381 7-speed DSG gearbox that has been developed to offer sportier gearbox feel with faster, smoother and more precise changes. The gearbox’s development has been modified to combine excellent performance with efficiency."

So my guess is it's the DQ381 that you've got which is why you've got smoother shifting. Just keep that in mind before planning any stage 3 turbo swaps

Yes the DQ500 is a bit "clunky" but I think that's partly due to it being built heavy duty so I don't mind the odd clunk in 1-2 gear change for the added peace of mind that I don't have a fragile transmission.

I think the DQ381 is a good option especially if you're not planning on doing towing. On that note do you know what the towing capacity is? This may give you a bit more of an idea that it's designed for passenger use only and nothing much more than putting a bike rack on the back (not that this is a problem - probably only a consideration for 5-10% of owners/potential owners).

Thanks, that answers that question.

It is rated for 750kg unbraked and 2000kg braked so slightly lower than the 2500kg rating for the Tiguan. You can get the swing down towbar for this but wasn’t on the car I got and wasn’t planning on waiting for one to be built as there is apparently a big delay due to them selling out. Personally I don’t see this as the type of car you would use for towing anything and I’d hate to see how they would fit and aftermarket towbar with that rear bumper. My wife has a manual diesel 7 seater with a towbar so I just use that for any towing needed.


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[NZ_GolfR]

Thinking of ditching the Tiguan....

In a way I'm glad to read this as my experience is similar and I was wondering if that was just my DSG. Leaves me a little more reassured now.


BTW, looks like Australia has been reclassified from "hot and dusty" climate area to a "moderately hot country", meaning we may get higher performance cars/tunes form the VW stable - barring petrol quality issues.

2020 Skoda Kodiaq RS confirmed for Australia | CarAdvice

Could mean we see a Cupra model in AU?

Know what you mean, I wasn’t sure if it was just mine or like it across the range. Was tempted to go test drive another Tiguan just to see.

Think the issue might be more with the Petrol Particulate Filter the CUPRA has not liking the level of sulphur in your fuel, unless the can do it without the filter for your market?


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[iDiesel]

"Current Ride: 2017 Pure White Tiguan 162TSI R-Line with DYNAUDIO, SPULEN Dog Bone Mount"

Time to update that sig

[NZ_GolfR]

"Current Ride: 2017 Pure White Tiguan 162TSI R-Line with DYNAUDIO, SPULEN Dog Bone Mount"

Time to update that sig

Done!


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[anonymousmoose]

Coming from the Mk6 Golf R I know this wasn’t going to be as sporty but to be honest I did think it was going to be a bit more sporty than it is. As of late I am really starting to realise just how big this car is and how not a hot hatch it really is even with the GTI engine in it.

Stop considering an SUV and buy a wagon. Lower to the ground and more sporty in general. Audi makes good wagons.

Also consider Golf R wagon

[NZ_GolfR]

Stop considering an SUV and buy a wagon. Lower to turn ground and more sporty in general. Audi makes good wagons.

Also consider Golf R wagon

I don’t need to as the CUPRA Ateca is a good solution for me.

Never been that big of a fan of wagons, had a couple of Subaru Legacy GTB (the decent looking ones) and found them a bit long to handle great. Audi A4 Avant S-Line (would need to be this at least for it to look at least sporty) starts at about $80k over here.

We don’t get the current Mk7.5 Golf R Wagon here and if we did based on the price for the standard Golf R you would be looking at least $70k plus any options. Not to mention I find the current Golf R really boring to look at, think the R Line looks better!

I got the CUPRA Ateca for under $60k with the bucket seats (normally a $2800 option) and it has the same engine as the Golf R, pretty decent handling but with more space. Icing on top is that I won’t see many of them driving around like I do with the Tiguan or Golf R now.


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[Ozsko]

Stop considering an SUV and buy a wagon. Lower to the ground and more sporty in general. Audi makes good wagons.

Also consider Golf R wagon

That is the exact reason I bought the Tiguan, our Golf GTI is getting to hard to get in and out of for me.

[NZ_GolfR]

That is the exact reason I bought the Tiguan, our Golf GTI is getting to hard to get in and out of for me.

Thankfully I’m not quite there yet otherwise the bucket seats in the CUPRA would be a pain. This is my work car and just needed a bit more space to cart around gear when needed, the Golf was a bit too small but didn’t want to go to a wagon.


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[Grugly]

You made the right choice, looks amazing and you can't go wrong with extra power!

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