140tdi stage1 tune recommendations in SA

[Simonr23]

I’ve read about APR for the TSI engines, but a search on here, hasn’t brought up much info on the diesels.

Any suggested workshops in SA?

Googling suggests that apr and a couple of others (unsure of the source for those yet) go from 190hp to approx 220-230hp and torque from 400 to 450-500nm.

Has anyone had this done and also any long-term engine/driveline durability reports?

Cheers.

[doc_777]

Not specifically south aus, but will be interested in responses you receive. One of the things holding me back on this is concern (maybe not the right word) over any long term transmission impacts.

[INASNT]

The Tiguan should have come out with the V6 Turbo Diesel from the Amarok..

Drove 1 for a day while VW were fixing the LED roof recall, was surprised with the power it had and how quick it felt 0-100 km/hr.

[tigger73]

Yeah APR on do the petrol engines as they don’t get the diesels in the US.

Speak to Callum at Haines Mechanical & Detail. He does RD Technik who also do a fair amount of diesel tuning.

They can also do a DSG tune which is probably even more important to ensure you’re operating at max torque for the diesel. Otherwise it’ll still run a bit like a slug if you’re in the wrong gear.


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[Transporter]

I’ve read about APR for the TSI engines, but a search on here, hasn’t brought up much info on the diesels.

Any suggested workshops in SA?

Googling suggests that apr and a couple of others (unsure of the source for those yet) go from 190hp to approx 220-230hp and torque from 400 to 450-500nm.

Has anyone had this done and also any long-term engine/driveline durability reports?

Cheers.

More power is less engine life. Smaller the engine is the bigger impact on durability and 2.0TDI with 140kw is already on its limits. Though, it’s fine, if you don’t want your engine to last a long time and you’re prepared for some decrease in the reliability too.

[Simonr23]

Thanks tigger. I’ve emailed them to see what can be done.

Also, apr don’t have anything for this engine/ecu combo yet.

Edit- transporter, I’m hoping there is optimisation available for the existing hardware, to loose some extra power, rather than anything too extreme. Also, the 176kw version overseas seems to be reliable(I know it’s bi-turbo). I think ford have a small, high output tdi too.

Cheers.

[Transporter]

Thanks tigger. I’ve emailed them to see what can be done.

Also, apr don’t have anything for this engine/ecu combo yet.

Edit- transporter, I’m hoping there is optimisation available for the existing hardware, to loose some extra power, rather than anything too extreme. Also, the 176kw version overseas seems to be reliable(I know it’s bi-turbo). I think ford have a small, high output tdi too.

Cheers.

Optimisation is usually 5-10kw max. Not +30kw. If you look closer at 176kw version, you’d see there are internal differences between the 2.

[tigger73]

I think you’ll find all the latest TDIs have been “detuned” at lower rpm to keep emissions down. You’ll definitely pick up more torque down low which will be your biggest win in terms of how the car drives.


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[INASNT]

More power is less engine life. Smaller the engine is the bigger impact on durability and 2.0TDI with 140kw is already on its limits. Though, it’s fine, if you don’t want your engine to last a long time and you’re prepared for some decrease in the reliability too.

No ones driving around full throttle all day everyday to reduce engine life significantly. After tune low throttle is alot better with no negative effects to the engine.

[Transporter]

No ones driving around full throttle all day everyday to reduce engine life significantly. After tune low throttle is alot better with no negative effects to the engine.

You and who ever wants to believe in that. It’s fine by me.

[INASNT]

You and who ever wants to believe in that. It’s fine by me.

My 1996 R33 Skyline came out stock with 180kw, after modifications the internally stock engine lived for more than 5 years with over 400kw which includes drag racing and many man many track days where you are full throttle 100% of the time....That was back in 2005 and the engine is still going....

Engines these days are not as delicate as you think..

[Transporter]

My 1996 R33 Skyline came out stock with 180kw, after modifications the internally stock engine lived for more than 5 years with over 400kw which includes drag racing and many man many track days where you are full throttle 100% of the time....That was back in 2005 and the engine is still going....

Engines these days are not as delicate as you think..

It wasn’t 2.0TDI Skyline, was it? Because AFAIK this discussion is about 2.0TDI which has already 140kW.

[INASNT]

It wasn’t 2.0TDI Skyline, was it? Because AFAIK this discussion is about 2.0TDI which has already 140kW.

I was waiting for the engine to blow before putting in a 2.0 TDI

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

I was waiting for the engine to blow before putting in a 2.0 TDI

I was just passing through this thread, however have to chip in my “LOL” at this comment....

[Transporter]

I was just passing through this thread, however have to chip in my “LOL” at this comment....

I was waiting for the engine to blow before putting in a 2.0 TDI

Yeah,
Should have driven it more often, perhaps as your daily as car owners today do, when they tune their cars and you’d have to put in 1.9TDI, since the 2.0TDI wasn’t born yet. That would be even more funny.