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  • #16
    Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
    Hub/centring rings are certainly no problem. These are only locating the wheel onto the hub and not taking any load.

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    Spacers/adapters are different as they physically change the track of the vehicle and increase loads on axles as a result. You also need to run longer bolts so you still have the same number of threads of bolt going into the hub.



    Good question and always best to check. The fact that they are 17" doesn't necessarily mean that they are/aren't going to fit. It's the design of the rim on the inside of the spokes and lip that causes the interference.



    They will just look like the stock 17's put onto an R-line. Audi Q5 wheels would probably not look too bad.



    I don't think you can change the speedo and wouldn't suggest people do this. There quite a few reasons why you shouldn't run incorrect size wheels on the car as it interferes with the correct operation of the ABS and ACC systems amongst other things.
    This will tell you

    I just downloaded all Tiguan ERWIN info yesterday

    D4B80796BF8-Wheels_and_Tyres_Guide.pdf - Google Drive

    Nothing wrong with adjusting speedo pulse to bring it closer to correct.

    The Passat and Polo are 7 over at 100km and if it would alter pulse it could be brought back to 2 over and be better. MyCruiser was bang on at 100kph and was perfectly legal. To use oversize tyres would have been illegal and upset performance and braking ability
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Hillbilly View Post
      Spacers are definitely illegal Its the hub ring that I was querying
      Sorry, I meant the hub ring (I have them on mine)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Hillbilly View Post

        Would think they wouldnt look the best
        The smaller wheels look OK on a Highline and an R line is just a few extra bits of trim so I can't see the problem. It is done all the time in Europe, over there they have in a lot of places two sets of wheels, one for winter use and they are always a smaller diameter from what I have seen and no one complains about the speedo being out. It would be interesting to see what the difference is on roll out measurement.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Ozsko View Post
          The smaller wheels look OK on a Highline and an R line is just a few extra bits of trim so I can't see the problem. It is done all the time in Europe, over there they have in a lot of places two sets of wheels, one for winter use and they are always a smaller diameter from what I have seen and no one complains about the speedo being out. It would be interesting to see what the difference is on roll out measurement.
          Well I can tell you from experience that my wifes Polo is 7 k over at 100kph and to correct it would take tyres with a diameter 40mm larger which are illegal .
          OK looked the sizes up on rimsntires comparator
          Wheel-Tire size comparer

          and heres what i got

          Standard wheels
          225/40/20 = 688mm dia
          225/45/19 =685 dia

          Winter tyres
          215/65/17 =712 dia

          So they are slightly larger in actual fact and so speedo will run slower than normal by about 2%

          Whether brakes will fit ??????
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Simonr23 View Post
            Sorry, I meant the hub ring (I have them on mine)
            Hub rings are fine. Plus who is going to be able to tell if you have them fitted unless you actually take your wheels off? And they make your car safer having them not worse so you should actually get defected for not having them not the other way around.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Hillbilly View Post
              Well I can tell you from experience that my wifes Polo is 7 k over at 100kph and to correct it would take tyres with a diameter 40mm larger which are illegal .
              OK looked the sizes up on rimsntires comparator
              Wheel-Tire size comparer

              and heres what i got

              Standard wheels
              225/40/20 = 688mm dia
              225/45/19 =685 dia

              Winter tyres
              215/65/17 =712 dia

              So they are slightly larger in actual fact and so speedo will run slower than normal by about 2%

              Whether brakes will fit ??????
              Diameter won't give you the actual loaded roll out.

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              • #22
                Attached is pic of TiguanR on 235/65 R17 tyres on Audi Q5 Rims.The rims are E8Jx17 H2 ET39. The car rides better on rough roads and is quieter in coarse bitumen. Handling under normal conditions seems OK. 17 inch wheels fit OK as brakes are the same size on all Tiguans.

                Everything else as per tigger73

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                • #23
                  OK question answered - Audi OEM 17" rims will clear Gen 2 Tiguan brakes.

                  The main thing with these weels you have to be aware of is that the standard Q5 tyre sizing on these is a little larger than you'd get on a gen2 Tiguan: Online Wheel and Tyre Fitment Calculator. Offset, Tyre Stretch and Speedo Error | Will They Fit

                  So fitment wise they will sit almost exactly same place, however will be 3.4% out in terms of diameter/speedo. Usually your speedo will be reading ~4-5% over at 100km/hr so this will bring it back closer to "true" speed. You won't be able to "creep" as you've already crept up in tyre size.

                  Not that it's necessarily a problem with these particular wheels but be especially careful with Audi rims in general as there are many aftermarket copies out there. If the wheels don't match up with factory specs and/or the backs don't have the factory markings then more than likely they are copies.

                  You can find the OEM fitments/specs for Tiguan here:Gen2 Tiguan Road Vehicle Descriptor (RVD1)

                  And Audi Q5 here: Audi Q5 Road Vehicle Descriptor (RVD1)

                  Personally if I was changing to a set of Audi rims I'd go for the 18's but that's only because I like the design of the 18's better and the ride quality difference going from 17" to 18" is not going to be very noticeable. Just put your suspension setting into comfort mode and you'll be right!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Hillbilly View Post
                    Just a question Are hub rings legal Spacers and adapters certainly arent anywhere in Aus unless factory fitted.

                    Will the brakes fit inside 17s????????.

                    Would think they wouldnt look the best and unles you put bloody big tyres on them your speedo will be in the next postcode as it will be so fast it wont be funny.

                    Does anyone know if you can alter the pulses on the Tigs. I certainly couldnt in the Passat and it wasnt for the lack of trying
                    Hubcentric rings are legal. Many ADR approved aftermarket wheels have them. They are different from hubcentric spacers.
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                    • #25
                      To the OP.

                      It would be really good to know how accurate your speedometer is but assuming it's typical of VW 7-10% over-read (eg: 100kph on speedo is 93kph actual and holding up the traffic).

                      the nearest 17" size to a 235/45r20 (assuming that's what size you have) and assuming your rims are 20x8 ET41 is 235/65r17 which is 20mm bigger in diameter. Still legal but maybe causing a speedo under-read. Or you can go more inaccurate with a 235/60r17.

                      Unless you go off-road I don't think either size is ideal as you really want to stick with 8" width to fill the guards properly and not make the stance look too under-done. Check tyre choices and prices too.

                      Personally, I'd go 18x8 with 235/55r18 (lots of choice). 245/55r18 would be better but choice is limited. The ride would still be good.

                      I think you need runflats too, don't you? This restricts choice even further unless you get a spare and tools.

                      Also, do you intend running snow chains at any point?
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by brad View Post
                        To the OP.

                        It would be really good to know how accurate your speedometer is but assuming it's typical of VW 7-10% over-read (eg: 100kph on speedo is 93kph actual and holding up the traffic).

                        the nearest 17" size to a 235/45r20 (assuming that's what size you have) and assuming your rims are 20x8 ET41 is 235/65r17 which is 20mm bigger in diameter. Still legal but maybe causing a speedo under-read. Or you can go more inaccurate with a 235/60r17.

                        Unless you go off-road I don't think either size is ideal as you really want to stick with 8" width to fill the guards properly and not make the stance look too under-done. Check tyre choices and prices too.

                        Personally, I'd go 18x8 with 235/55r18 (lots of choice). 245/55r18 would be better but choice is limited. The ride would still be good.

                        I think you need runflats too, don't you? This restricts choice even further unless you get a spare and tools.

                        Also, do you intend running snow chains at any point?
                        Hi Brad,

                        I have no idea (yet) about the accuracy of the speedo - only had the car a week.

                        The stock wheels are 20x8.5 ET38, tyres are 255/45r20, so the 235/65r17's should be ok apart from the speedo error/correction, which I can live with until the tyres are replaced. The wheels in the photo earlier in the post look ok, I think.

                        As for spares/runflats, I'll probably get a spare if it will fit under the raised cover, which some people have had success with.

                        I have no plans to run snow chains.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Ptolemy View Post
                          Hi Brad,

                          I have no idea (yet) about the accuracy of the speedo - only had the car a week.

                          The stock wheels are 20x8.5 ET38, tyres are 255/45r20, so the 235/65r17's should be ok apart from the speedo error/correction, which I can live with until the tyres are replaced. The wheels in the photo earlier in the post look ok, I think.

                          As for spares/runflats, I'll probably get a spare if it will fit under the raised cover, which some people have had success with.

                          I have no plans to run snow chains.
                          A 20mm larger diameter tyre wont make a 7k over speedo underead Our Polo is 7 K over and to bring it back to accurate the tyres would need to be 40mm larger and illegal.

                          So 20mm would only bring it back by 3-4 kph
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                          • #28
                            If you're going with one of the Q5 Audi wheels then the hub rings need to be Audi to VW = 66.6mm to 57.1mm

                            I'd probably pay a few more $ and get the aluminium ones but both should work OK. They don't support any weight - just ensure that your wheel is put on centred on the hub before you bolt it up:

                            Wheel Hub Centric Rings Spacers CBL OD=66.6mm ID=57.1mm Aluminium AUDI VW | eBay

                            Hub Rings 66.6mm Wheels to 57.1mm Centrebore Hub VW Audi Mercedes Euro Division: Your European Automotive Specialist

                            You can also get these from ECS for $10 but shipping will cost more than the parts...

                            If you want to change the Audi centre caps over, you could try these:

                            4x Audi - VW Wheel Center Cap Emblem Cover Hub A4 A5 A6 A7 S4 S5 Q5 4F0601165N | eBay

                            It says they're compatible with Audi wheels. If you pay with PayPal you can always claim if they don't fit. Otherwise run the Audi covers but you may get some strange looks from people running Audi centre caps on a VW...

                            The stock Tiguan Trendline 17's have similar centre caps which cover the bolts, however these are probably going to be pretty pricey from a dealer spare parts.

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                            2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
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                            • #29
                              Thanks Tigger, more excellent information and greatly appreciated.

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                              • #30
                                I have a set of 66.6-57.1 in plastic that I don't need. You can have them for $5
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