162TSI R-Line Minor Mods

[NZ_GolfR]

So, after doing just about all the tinkering I can with my OBD11 I have finally decided to do some hardware mods. Since this is my daily driver and work car I didn't want to go over the top so I decided to find some minor mods that shouldn't have any effect on the warranty but hopefully make at least some difference.

I looked at the option of a full intake but after having one on my old Golf R I found it a bit too loud for a daily driver. Instead I have ordered the following items:

CTS High Flow Turbo Inlet Pipe:


CTS Turbo Muffler Delete:


ECS Silicone Turbo Inlet Hose:


I have these on order from ECS Tuning which I should hopefully get in the next week. These were all cheap enough (especially since ECS were having a sale) and should be nice and straight forward for me to install myself. Once they turn up I will update the post with install details as well as how I find them.

The other thing I bought was a SPULEN Dog Bone Engine Mount:



I stumbled someone selling one of these for a MK7 Golf GTI locally on Trade Me but didn't know anything about them. After doing a bit of research (firstly confirming that the MK7 Golf GTI version fits the Tiguan) I discovered that these apparently help with improving acceleration and throttle response ,I thought it couldn't be a bad thing for the Tig. I did read that some of these can cause some severe vibrations in the car but this one (their Street version) seemed to be one of the least susceptible to this. Figured if I didn't like it I could always remove it and at only $50 not a big loss.

Since this was coming locally it has arrived already:







Didn't get a chance to install this today but will do so tomorrow and let you know how it goes.

[BenT]

I had stiffer engine mounts in my Megane 225 and although they increased vibration I loved them coz the throttle response was better, and they didn’t fail every 50k kms like the factory mounts.


Ben

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[NZ_GolfR]

162TSI R-Line Minor Mods

So I installed the Dog Mount this morning, was a pretty simple install the longest part was jacking up the car and getting it on the axle stands.

Once the car was up I just slid under the front end and here is a shot of the factory mount:



Took a bit of brute force to get the factory bolt undone which was a little awkward as I didn’t have a lot of room under the car.

Once the bolt was out the SPULEN Mount slipped in pretty easily. The skinnier front prongs seem to catch a little when trying to slide it in, I just had to give it a bit of a wobble while pushing to line it up correctly.



My SPULEN came with a smaller washer as well as the large flat washer however all the instructions I saw online didn’t have this washer. At this stage I have left this off, I might email SPULEN to find out if this is needed and what difference it would make.

Doing up the new bolt was obviously straightforward just a little awkward again tightening it up to the recommended 130Nm due to space.

Here is what the new mount looks like installed:



I took it for a quick test drive but couldn’t do too much as I had my son in the back. Definitely noticed some vibration when I first started the car but then that seemed to go away after a bit and then I didn’t notice much at all when idling.

There is definitely a difference with the acceleration now, the lag seemed to be much less when in normal drive mode and seems much more responsive. When I put it in sports mode taking off from stationary was almost lethal, it was so quick to respond and much more like my old Golf R.

There is definitely some vibration when driving but nothing too bad. What I found was it seems to resonate the engine vibrations so you actually get more engine noise inside which I kind of like. When I got the Tig I found it really quiet inside and struggled to hear the revs of the engine, I always drove my Golf R in manual mode with the paddles but struggled with the Tig as I couldn’t hear when to change.

In reverse you definitely feel more vibration, which I read is common with these.

I did read that these take a few 100kms to settle in properly and will quieten so will see if anything changes over the next few weeks/months and will keep you posted.

I will take this for a proper drive and test it more either tomorrow or Tuesday with no one else in the car and let you know how it goes and how I find it.

So far I would have to say that if you are looking to improve the accelerator response on your Tiguan then this is definitely a worthwhile upgrade considering how cheap and easy it was to install.


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[Melbourne_Tiggy]

Thanks for the review. I had a dog bone mount on my Tig Version 1, and it vibrated like crazy had to take it off. Good to hear the one you installed is not adding much NVH

[adrianb]

Curious - how does an engine mount change throttle response?

[NZ_GolfR]

Curious - how does an engine mount change throttle response?

It isn't an engine mount, it is technically called a Pendulum Mount and is is responsible for restricting and absorbing torque transfer between engine and transmission. I didn't know about this at all until I stumbled across this one for sale and did some reading about what it is for.

I found this article gives a good description of the Mount and how the inserts help: https://www.autoinstruct.com.au/blog/what-is-a-dogbone-mount/

[NZ_GolfR]

Thought I should give everyone a bit of an update on the Dog Bone Mount after running it for the past few days and done about ~200km with it now.

I have to say that overall I am really impressed with it, especially for the price. It seems to have settled in well and when cruising around town and in normal traffic you wouldn't notice any difference, there is basically no vibrations.

When you put your foot down however the engine vibrations that come through into the cabin seems to more enhance the sound you normally get from the engine/exhaust to give it a bit more of a throaty, sporty sound. It isn't an annoying vibration that makes everything in the car rattle, you can feel it a little through the steering wheel and in the seat but that is about it. In reverse you notice it more, it idles a bit rougher and you have to give it a bit more gas to get it going.

I took the car out late one evening and did some test runs on and off the motorway to see how it went. Along with the sound the shifts were much smoother, especially in Sports and Manual mode. Definitely gave the impression of improved acceleration, not sure if that is just hopefully thinking but if it is changing slightly quicker then it has got to help.

I personally find that by adding this mount it makes the car feel more like my old Golf R. I had wondered if VW intentionally put in a softer mount system in the Tiguan than in the Golf GTI/R to make it more comfortable but less sporty feeling. That might explain why when a lot of people upgraded this in the GTI or R they find it too harsh for a daily driver yet with the Tiguan I found it actually enhances the car.

One thing I haven't tested yet is to see if it has made any improvement with wheel hopping. When I first got the Tiguan I tried pushing it hard around a corner than the Golf R would normally step the back out a little and drift slightly only to be surprised by the horrible wheel hopping the Tiguan produced.

Unfortunately the parts I have ordered from ECS have been delayed as they are still waiting for the CTS Muffler Delete to arrive from their supplier. At this stage my order should be shipped on the 11th so will update when these come in.

[INASNT]

Don't do a rear muffler delete, the drone and vibrations will annoy you.. Consider replacing the muffler with a good brand muffler.. Don make the mistake I did by installing a check muffler, 95% negative effects.

[NZ_GolfR]

Don't do a rear muffler delete, the drone and vibrations will annoy you.. Consider replacing the muffler with a good brand muffler.. Don make the mistake I did by installing a check muffler, 95% negative effects.

I’m not doing a full rear muffler delete, just a Turbo Muffler Delete which is this:

CTS - CTSHW0199 - Turbo Muffler Delete

I saw your post about changing the rear muffler, I had been keen to do something on mine but after reading about your experience I will leave it for now, at least until there is a decent proper aftermarket one out.

I am seriously considering removing the centre resonator now though....


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[INASNT]

If your getting a downpipe then don't waste your time as it gets replaced anyway.

[NZ_GolfR]

Look what turned up yesterday:









Me being impatient decided to install them all at 11:00 last night. Was generally pretty easy, will do a proper write up on it yesterday and well as my impression after I take the car for a drive today (was too late last night by the time I finished).


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[Melbourne_Tiggy]

Hi NZ_GOLFR, I’ve got those parts on mine. How do you find the drive? I found removing the snow grate also increases the induction sound.

[INASNT]

Reviews of the turbo muffler saw it does nothing, interesting to hear if you notice anything. ECS seems to be the only one making the turbo inlet hose?

I removed my snow grate yesterday, did not make a noticeable noise increase, but throttle response seems a little better...could just be my mind playing tricks on me...

[Grugly]

Reviews of the turbo muffler saw it does nothing, interesting to hear if you notice anything. ECS seems to be the only one making the turbo inlet hose?

I removed my snow grate yesterday, did not make a noticeable noise increase, but throttle response seems a little better...could just be my mind playing tricks on me...

I joined the snow grate delete club a few weeks ago, agree the throttle seems a tad more responsive and I personally think there has been slight increase in the intake noise but my Tig is stock standard with no tunes (and this was with all the windows down and sunroof open)

[NZ_GolfR]

So have had a few days normal driving now with all these upgrades installed and have to say, overall I’m pretty happy.

Install was incredibly straightforward and really easy to do. I think it was all much easier to do than in the Golf (especially the Turbo Muffler Delete) as there is much more room in the engine bay. The only annoying thing is these are higher so spent most of my time up on my toes, over extending my knees leaning on the front bumper and front guard reaching everything (I’m 6ft so not short).

The install took me about an hour but I didn’t start until after 11pm at night so was doing it under my carport lights along with a torch and was fluffing around a fair bit. If I had waited and done it during the day would have been much quicker. Also, I forgot to swap the O ring over on the Turbo Inlet Pipe and didn’t realise until I was packing everything up so had to pull this off again to put it on.

The hardest part of all the install was taking off and re-installing the short silicone hose for the Turbo Muffler Delete. It was a bit fiddly especially trying to re-attach the hose but might have been easier if the light was better.

The ESC Inlet Hose fitted well and looks miles better than the factory plastic one. It was cheaper than the CTS one and I thought looked better in the gloss black, very similar to the Racingline one but half the price of that one.



I had already removed the snow guard a few days ago after reading about that (we don’t get much snow here in Auckland!!). Have to say with that and these upgrades I haven’t noticed much difference in the noise from the turbo, I still can’t hear much even with the windows down. I had been hesitant about doing a full intake with this as I found the one in my old Golf R, while sounded great, was sometimes a bit loud and annoying for a daily driver but now I am considering it especially if I can find one at the right price.

Apart from the lack of noise, I definitely find that with all the small changes has definitely made an improvement to the overall driving of the car. The throttle response is much better and I have a much better feel for the engine. I can now enjoy driving it in manual mode where I originally struggled without watching the rev counter all the time. Gear changes also seem a lot smoother as well in standard drive mode as well as manual and sport mode.

Everything except the Dogbone mount came from ECS in the US and I am really happy with their service. There was a bit of a delay in them getting one of the parts in from their supplier but once that turned up they shipped it on Saturday NZ Time and I received it Tuesday morning, our local couriers often can’t even deliver something within the country that quick!!

I don’t know the exact cost of all the parts yet, I ordered a couple extra parts to sell as it cut down the freight cost per item. Unfortunately customs got hold of it so I had to pay GST and duty charge, GST isn’t an issue as I can claim that back through my business since its my company car, just have to work out the converted NZ price for each item and divide the duty charge across them all to get the final price. Even with the extra cost I definitely think they were worth it (still should be cheaper than sourcing locally) as I’m re-enjoying the car again. Plus I like knowing mine is slightly different to all the other R Lines I keep seeing on the road here now.

Next step might have to bite the bullet and get a full tune!


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