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  • #46
    Originally posted by HPSOV View Post
    My dealer won't talk price until the end of the week when the official pricing comes through in the 'system' apparently. That price sounds about $4000 off full price I think? I'd say it's a good (not awesome though) price for what will be one of the first MY16's. I doubt anyone will get an awesome price while demand for MY16's is high.
    Yes that's true, he was the first dealer to quote me under 50k or quote at all. Going to see if I can push it to 48K. That would seal the deal otherwise I'll wait for the official pricing.

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    • #47
      MY16 Golf Pricing

      Originally posted by NMoth View Post
      Yes that's true, he was the first dealer to quote me under 50k or quote at all. Going to see if I can push it to 48K. That would seal the deal otherwise I'll wait for the official pricing.
      I have seen two price lists for the MY16 Golf. One is “plus on roads and dealer delivery” and the other “driveaway”, the driveaway being the more favourable for the purchaser.

      After an unpleasant experience with one dealer I suggest you write in the special conditions what is not negotiable (“Must be MY16 ….. etc). Another dealer told me the contract is binding but they can “adjust” the specification. I am not a lawyer but know if someone presents you with a contract it is going to have conditions favourable to them.

      Watch out for the clause where they give you three days to agree to a price increase. I changed it to 7 days.

      The other thing I learnt is when you agree to a price put down a deposit and exchange contacts immediately.

      In my case I got what I thought was a good deal but accepted the dealer’s excuses about exchanging contracts (was not concerned as they had told me they had confirmed my order with VW Australia, “it’s my RDO”, etc).

      When I did go in I was told the car was no longer “available” but a more expensive model was. I suspect they decided they used the time to find a better deal for themselves.

      So much for VW Australia wanting to improve the “customer experience”.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by BlindFreddie View Post
        I have seen two price lists for the MY16 Golf. One is “plus on roads and dealer delivery” and the other “driveaway”, the driveaway being the more favourable for the purchaser.

        After an unpleasant experience with one dealer I suggest you write in the special conditions what is not negotiable (“Must be MY16 ….. etc). Another dealer told me the contract is binding but they can “adjust” the specification. I am not a lawyer but know if someone presents you with a contract it is going to have conditions favourable to them.

        Watch out for the clause where they give you three days to agree to a price increase. I changed it to 7 days.

        The other thing I learnt is when you agree to a price put down a deposit and exchange contacts immediately.

        In my case I got what I thought was a good deal but accepted the dealer’s excuses about exchanging contracts (was not concerned as they had told me they had confirmed my order with VW Australia, “it’s my RDO”, etc).

        When I did go in I was told the car was no longer “available” but a more expensive model was. I suspect they decided they used the time to find a better deal for themselves.

        So much for VW Australia wanting to improve the “customer experience”.
        Thanks for the tips BF! I normally don't read the small print and see it as a necessary evil that you can't change when buying a car...

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        • #49
          When I bought my MY16 GTIPP they wrote in the "Special Conditions" box on the New Vehicle Contract:
          "Contract is subject to supply of MY2016 Golf GTI Performance".
          I've since been given a printout from the salesman from the VW NADCON system showing all the dates of the build, shipment, arrival etc.
          My car is probably being built this week or next week and I should see it Mid Oct.

          If you're having issues getting a dealer to commit to a price then try another dealer - mine has been great so far.
          Last edited by AJW; 11-07-2015, 08:32 AM.
          MY21 Golf MK8 GTI | Kings Red Metallic | all options |
          MY16 Golf MK7 GTI PP | White | With Leather |
          MY11 Golf MK6 GTI DSG | CW | 5dr | Bi-Xenons | ACC | 18" Detroits | RNS510 with Dynaudio| RVC | MDI |

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          • #50
            Originally posted by AJW View Post
            When I bought my MY16 GTIPP they wrote in the "Special Conditions" box on the New Vehicle Contract:
            "Contract is subject to supply of MY2016 Golf GTI Performance".
            I've since been given a printout from the salesman from the VW NADCON system showing all the dates of the build, shipment, arrival etc.
            My car is probably being built this week or next week and I should see it Mid Oct.

            If you're having issues getting a dealer to commit to a price then try another dealer - mine has been great so far.
            Is this vw nadcon printout something that every dealer should be able to provide

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            • #51
              Originally posted by gwaipor View Post
              Is this vw nadcon printout something that every dealer should be able to provide
              They should be able to, there's nothing on it that a customer shouldn't be able to see.
              It makes their job easier because you have the complete timetable of the car build, shipping etc so you don't have to keep asking them what's going on.
              What you have to realise is the last dated entry is when the ship docks in your city.
              The dealer then needs to tell you when the car will be delivered as it has to go thru' Customs, Australian compliance checks, transportation, pre-delivered and rego applied - so allow 2 & a bit weeks.
              MY21 Golf MK8 GTI | Kings Red Metallic | all options |
              MY16 Golf MK7 GTI PP | White | With Leather |
              MY11 Golf MK6 GTI DSG | CW | 5dr | Bi-Xenons | ACC | 18" Detroits | RNS510 with Dynaudio| RVC | MDI |

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              • #52
                Originally posted by NMoth View Post
                VW gave me a price today for a MY16 $49,500 drive away for golf gti pp with mats and tint. You guys reckon that's a good deal? Delivery end of August.

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                Yep, that's a good deal I reckon. I paid just over $51k for a MY15 with mats, bonnet protector and boot/luggage mat and delivered in 2 weeks

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                • #53
                  OK got quoted this for basic non pp MY16 model
                  40,990 standard price with discount + 2500 DSG + 1420 stamp duty + 620 CTD + 350 rego + 2500 dealer delivery=48,380
                  ETA Sep-Oct

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                  • #54
                    You boys and girls pricing up GTi's, assuming you are all good with more power and AWD, should be pushing to get into a current stock MY15 R. The MY16, not due in country till August, have now got standard leather and the bigger Nav screen as such current stock will be a great buy.

                    As an example there are 5 brand spankers R's sitting at my local dealer, a deal is definitely on the cards if you push. My guess, and it's a guess, a manual R non met paint should be close to $50 drive away, worth a thought noting they include some of the My16 GTi things already

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by AlpineM3E92 View Post
                      You boys and girls pricing up GTi's, assuming you are all good with more power and AWD, should be pushing to get into a current stock MY15 R. The MY16, not due in country till August, have now got standard leather and the bigger Nav screen as such current stock will be a great buy.

                      As an example there are 5 brand spankers R's sitting at my local dealer, a deal is definitely on the cards if you push. My guess, and it's a guess, a manual R non met paint should be close to $50 drive away, worth a thought noting they include some of the My16 GTi things already
                      $50k is not such a great price for that spec, but whatever deal you can get for a superceded model, you have to weigh up whether the savings are worth not having the latest model with the latest toys. We are living in an age where enthusiasts want the latest tech, even if 12 months down the track, MY17 models will start the cycle all over again.

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                      • #56
                        It's a lot better than being quoted over $48k on road for a stock GTI though Mikey!

                        --- FS: 2016 Golf GTI 40 years, white, DSG, 18,xxxkm -------------------------------------------------------------------
                        2019 Audi SQ5 | 2016 Golf GTI CS + OZ UL HLTs | Retired: 2018 Audi RS3 sportback + OZ Leggera HLTs
                        2017 Golf R Wolfsburg Sportwagen | 2016 BMW 340i + M-Performance tune/exhaust | 2015 Audi S3 sedan
                        2014 Golf GTI + OZ Leggera HLTs | 2012 Polo 77TSI (hers) | 2010 Golf GTI Stage 2 + OZ ST LMs

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Dutch77 View Post
                          It's a lot better than being quoted over $48k on road for a stock GTI though Mikey!
                          Dutch, are we really comparing apples with apples? As you know, what prices people are quoted depend on so many factors, which have been mentioned ad nauseam in this forum? There is no doubt substantial savings should be available on superceded models, particularly when the newer model is cheaper and has more standard inclusions. The best time to buy a new model is generally not at time of release when there is so much hype, but if you can find the right dealer, they will sell you a car as long as there is something in it for them, whether that be a small profit margin, potential repeat business, servicing at that dealership or recommendations.

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                          • #58
                            Agreed, I'm just saying if I had the choice between an MY15 R and MY16 GTI and there was a couple k in it, I know which way I'd go.

                            I haven't monitored the prices that closely of late so cannot judge as well as I could a year ago.

                            --- FS: 2016 Golf GTI 40 years, white, DSG, 18,xxxkm -------------------------------------------------------------------
                            2019 Audi SQ5 | 2016 Golf GTI CS + OZ UL HLTs | Retired: 2018 Audi RS3 sportback + OZ Leggera HLTs
                            2017 Golf R Wolfsburg Sportwagen | 2016 BMW 340i + M-Performance tune/exhaust | 2015 Audi S3 sedan
                            2014 Golf GTI + OZ Leggera HLTs | 2012 Polo 77TSI (hers) | 2010 Golf GTI Stage 2 + OZ ST LMs

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Dutch77 View Post
                              Agreed, I'm just saying if I had the choice between an MY15 R and MY16 GTI and there was a couple k in it, I know which way I'd go.

                              I haven't monitored the prices that closely of late so cannot judge as well as I could a year ago.
                              That's exactly what I meant Dutch, you would have to have a few screws loose I think, if you paid $2-5k less to get a MY16 GTi over a MY15 R.

                              Just sayin, the MY16 R gets leather, the larger Nav screen and the software for Apple/android as standard fare now. (I know cause we took delivery of a loaded R just off the boat two weeks ago, MY15 of course) and as a standard base car you get some of the mY16 GTi upgrades, remote start, xenons for example on the MY15 R so you only miss out on the 6.5" screen and software.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Dutch77 View Post
                                Agreed, I'm just saying if I had the choice between an MY15 R and MY16 GTI and there was a couple k in it, I know which way I'd go.

                                I haven't monitored the prices that closely of late so cannot judge as well as I could a year ago.
                                Whatever "great" deal you can get on a superceded R should also be available on a superceded GTI, though a dealer having existing floor stock of either model might swing things more in your favour.

                                Comparing a GTI to an R brings interesting responses. Some won't look at the relatively minimal price differences between the R and PP because of personal preferences and/or prejudices. For me, it's no contest. I'm over the red stitching and interior lighting, and the AWD grip in today's soggy Melbourne and Victorian roads is a revelation.

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