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  • #16
    OK. I'm pretty comfortable going with it (the PP that is).

    Only question is should I try to downsize to 18"? Or would it be marginal? I'd only do the downsize if I can get the dealer to swap.

    Also, thanks for the feedback from all so far. This is a great forum.

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    • #17
      I think it would be marginal, but it depends on how bad the roads are where you drive. Other than rim size, the std GTI runs on a 40 profile so will contribute to a softer ride
      Pity you can't drive both to compare.
      Last edited by aj555; 24-10-2014, 07:26 PM.

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      • #18
        The suspension tune is the same on both the GTI and the GTI PP. In other parts of the world there is no difference in model, the diff, brakes and power bump are just like any other option. Any difference in ride will be purely down to the wheels
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        • #19
          Originally posted by aj555 View Post
          I think it would be marginal, but it depends on how bad the roads are where you drive. Other than rim size, the std GTI runs on a 40 profile so will contribute to a softer ride
          Pity you can't drive both to compare.
          I have driven both. I drove the std GTI a few times and quite extensively. Including on the freeway.

          However I drove the PP on a another day and only a very short spin and a different route. I felt it was a tiny bit firmer. Certianly nothing harsh.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Jimi View Post
            The suspension tune is the same on both the GTI and the GTI PP. In other parts of the world there is no difference in model, the diff, brakes and power bump are just like any other option. Any difference in ride will be purely down to the wheels
            Thanks for that. That's good to know.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by oztadpole View Post
              Only question is should I try to downsize to 18"? Or would it be marginal? I'd only do the downsize if I can get the dealer to swap.
              Why would you want the dealer to swap, they will shaft you.

              Given the look of the Santiagos they aren't an easy sell second hand admittedly, but the rubber has some value and you can then get a decent set of 18s that you like the look of.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Dutch77 View Post
                Why would you want the dealer to swap, they will shaft you.

                Given the look of the Santiagos they aren't an easy sell second hand admittedly, but the rubber has some value and you can then get a decent set of 18s that you like the look of.
                Fair point.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Dutch77 View Post
                  Why would you want the dealer to swap, they will shaft you.

                  Given the look of the Santiagos they aren't an easy sell second hand admittedly, but the rubber has some value and you can then get a decent set of 18s that you like the look of.
                  Or you're really worried about the ride of the 19's, you could find someone with a stock GTI that wants to swap. Then you keep the OEM look.


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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
                    Or you're really worried about the ride of the 19's, you could find someone with a stock GTI that wants to swap. Then you keep the OEM look.


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                    Tigger

                    That's what I had in mind if I really wanted 18".

                    Having read through past posts though from people with pp's it seems the 19's are quite reasonable in terms of ride.

                    So I'm not as concerned as I was when I started this thread.

                    At this stage I'm not fussed if I'm stuck with the 19".

                    If I swing 18" without additional cost then its a bonus in terms of ride and practicality. If not that's fine also.

                    BTW. Was also following your tiguan tread. Great reading. Was looking at tig at one stage 155tsi r-line - coming from a tarago.

                    But decided to take the plunge into a gti. Haven't driven a little hatch for years. Forgotten how much fun it was.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by oztadpole View Post
                      Tigger

                      That's what I had in mind if I really wanted 18".

                      BTW. Was also following your tiguan tread. Great reading. Was looking at tig at one stage 155tsi r-line - coming from a tarago.

                      But decided to take the plunge into a gti. Haven't driven a little hatch for years. Forgotten how much fun it was.
                      You'd probably be able to find someone for swaps on here if you decided to go down that path... or the dealer may be able accommodate as a no cost "down-grade".

                      In relation to damaging 19" rims this is a bit of an extreme example of what can go wrong if you hit a pothole/rock at speed:



                      No guarantees that an 18" rim wouldn't have suffered the same fate, however you'd probably have a better chance of driving away.

                      The Tiguan is a good option if you like the higher driving position and has the added benefit of an AWD platform (=grip). With a $5k budget for mods you can get similar level of performance to a stock Golf R.

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                      • #26
                        unfortunately the Tiguan is still on the old platform, I'd be waiting for the all new MQB Tiguan if going down that route (2016?)

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
                          You'd probably be able to find someone for swaps on here if you decided to go down that path... or the dealer may be able accommodate as a no cost "down-grade".

                          In relation to damaging 19" rims this is a bit of an extreme example of what can go wrong if you hit a pothole/rock at speed:



                          No guarantees that an 18" rim wouldn't have suffered the same fate, however you'd probably have a better chance of driving away.

                          The Tiguan is a good option if you like the higher driving position and has the added benefit of an AWD platform (=grip). With a $5k budget for mods you can get similar level of performance to a stock Golf R.
                          Yep. That's scarey.

                          Sydney roads can be pretty ordinary - which is where I live. So even at legal speeds the chances if buckling a wheel or damaging a tyre increase with lower aspect.

                          I forgot to check on test car. But can anyone advise what the OEM tyres are on a gti pp.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by andrew7 View Post
                            unfortunately the Tiguan is still on the old platform, I'd be waiting for the all new MQB Tiguan if going down that route (2016?)
                            That was a slight concern. But not really a deal breaker. Was still streets ahead compared to other small suvs i drove (in terms of driving experience).

                            But then I tried a gti and it was such a complete package. Just wanted something totally different this time I guess.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by oztadpole View Post
                              That was a slight concern. But not really a deal breaker. Was still streets ahead compared to other small suvs i drove (in terms of driving experience).

                              But then I tried a gti and it was such a complete package. Just wanted something totally different this time I guess.
                              The new 130TDI Tiguan is pick of the bunch. If the dealer didn't want $30k change-over I may even be driving one now

                              Though the MQB Tiguan is the one to get if you can hold off. Due for global release next year and here sometime in 2016.

                              But yes the new GTI is a great package and if you can fit everyone in then go for it. Definite step up in terms of driver enjoyment from the Tarago!!!

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                              2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
                                The new 130TDI Tiguan is pick of the bunch. If the dealer didn't want $30k change-over I may even be driving one now

                                Though the MQB Tiguan is the one to get if you can hold off. Due for global release next year and here sometime in 2016.

                                But yes the new GTI is a great package and if you can fit everyone in then go for it. Definite step up in terms of driver enjoyment from the Tarago!!!
                                Drove a tarago for 20 years. Was a real workhorse. Nowadays I'm the only one in the car because I drive it to work.

                                The thought of getting back into a small car - was a bit hesitant at first. But kids are all grown up and driving. They have their own transport.

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