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  • Golf R v GTI Performance

    G'day guys

    As you may know I recently wrote off my Lapiz Blue R after just 2 months driving thanks to a high speed collision with a 1 ton Bull The good news is that I'm OK and get to start over and choose a new car

    Having decided against the extra $$ spend for the Audi S3, I'm tossing and turning over a choice between another R or a GTI Performance. The notional gap is $6k but it narrows after my negotiations to about $4.2k when you spec both with leather and Driver Assistance package. I did enjoy my brief time in the R, an impressive angry beast when poked, but did occasionally have concerns that the ride was a fraction firm (but still comfortable) on the country roads I travel. Ride quality appears better with the Performance even tho it also rides on 19's. GTI performance is well rated (9/10 in Wheels mag v 8/10 for the R) and clearly more than adequate, engine note sounds good (though I am yet to drive it). Anyway, thoughts/comments appreciated so I can make up my mind!

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    If I had the extra cash... I woulda went for the R instead of the GTI performance.... but to get a specced up R wasn't cheap (over 65k) over at the west =/ they wouldn't even budge that much for mine. ( I tried 3 dealership )
    GTI PP Mk7
    My grandma used to say...

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    • #3
      Manual R would be my pick!
      MY14 MK VII GTI | Pure White | Manual | Bi-Xenons (his)
      MY19 B8 Passat 206TSI wagon | Manganese Grey (hers)

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      • #4
        If you've got that gap down to just over $4k then as above, I'd be going the R without hesitation.

        For me the gap from my standard GTI to basic R was in the five figure range and therefore sticking to the standard GTI was a no-brainer.

        --- FS: 2016 Golf GTI 40 years, white, DSG, 18,xxxkm -------------------------------------------------------------------
        2019 Audi SQ5 | 2016 Golf GTI CS + OZ UL HLTs | Retired: 2018 Audi RS3 sportback + OZ Leggera HLTs
        2017 Golf R Wolfsburg Sportwagen | 2016 BMW 340i + M-Performance tune/exhaust | 2015 Audi S3 sedan
        2014 Golf GTI + OZ Leggera HLTs | 2012 Polo 77TSI (hers) | 2010 Golf GTI Stage 2 + OZ ST LMs

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        • #5
          just did the VW Drive experience at Eastern Creek, and drove both the GTI PP and the R. On the fast full laps around Eastern Creek, the R felt tighter and was flatter in the corners and was stronger in the top-end and sounded better. Brakes felt good on both. On the shaloms and wet cornering we used the PP and it was quite agile and the new diff on the PP was impressive in the wet corner exercise.

          Apart from drive both, my feeling would be if you do a lot of country driving the R would be well suited. If you do a lot of driving on tight hilly roads, the PP might be more suited.
          mk VI GTI, manual, reflex silver, basic

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          • #6
            Great feedback thanks mfl (et al). Given the relative 'value' equation, incredible all-round performance, top end grunt/power of the R (and AWD) I think it's a winner. This time around I'll switch to pure white

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            • #7
              Originally posted by andrew7 View Post
              Great feedback thanks mfl (et al). Given the relative 'value' equation, incredible all-round performance, top end grunt/power of the R (and AWD) I think it's a winner. This time around I'll switch to pure white
              Andrew7....are you able to share price of the Golf R via post or PM?

              Cheers
              In the garage : 997 GT2, 996 Turbo, 2012 Q5 S-Line, DD - MY2015 Golf R, BMW S1000RR, On Order Porsche Macan S - for wifey.

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              • #8
                This only applies if you're thinking of a manual probably. With the Mk6 I've said to people get the GTI if you live in the city and get the R if you live in the country. Reason being the GTI Has a bottom end and the R doesn't so the manual GTI is better in traffic. As the Mk7 now has a bottom end thanks to the variable exhaust thingy I would suggest everyone get an R if they can afford it.
                Looking for:- RS4 B7 Avant.
                Current:- Amarok V6 Sportline; Mazda CX-9 Azami AWD
                Previous - Mk 6 R manual; Mk 7 R manual; Passat 130 TDi Wagon. Mk 7.5 Wolfsburg Wagon.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Paul_R View Post
                  ..As the Mk7 now has a bottom end thanks to the variable exhaust thingy I would suggest everyone get an R if they can afford it.
                  I disagree a little, which does contradict my comment above though.

                  I could have afforded to jump up to a PP and then to an R if I had wanted to, but I did not see any value in those models for my purposes (I emphasise the my here). I think ultimately that is why it's good to come on here and get some feedback on the question, but then use that information to make the best decision for yourself.

                  --- FS: 2016 Golf GTI 40 years, white, DSG, 18,xxxkm -------------------------------------------------------------------
                  2019 Audi SQ5 | 2016 Golf GTI CS + OZ UL HLTs | Retired: 2018 Audi RS3 sportback + OZ Leggera HLTs
                  2017 Golf R Wolfsburg Sportwagen | 2016 BMW 340i + M-Performance tune/exhaust | 2015 Audi S3 sedan
                  2014 Golf GTI + OZ Leggera HLTs | 2012 Polo 77TSI (hers) | 2010 Golf GTI Stage 2 + OZ ST LMs

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                  • #10
                    I went for the PP over the GTI - I wanted the Xenon's as I had them in a previous car. It was a $2k option on the GTI, so I figured for another $2k I would be get the PP with 19", electronic diff, alcantara & LED taillights. The R would be nice, but we all have a budget to work to.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by aj555 View Post
                      I went for the PP over the GTI - I wanted the Xenon's as I had them in a previous car. It was a $2k option on the GTI, so I figured for another $2k I would be get the PP with 19", electronic diff, alcantara & LED taillights. The R would be nice, but we all have a budget to work to.
                      Can't agree more to this.
                      GTI PP Mk7
                      My grandma used to say...

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                      • #12
                        I was VERY unhappy when I found out we weren't getting the manual GTI PP. That's one of the reasons I jumped ship to Merc (failure). I didn't want 19's either. I'd had 2 GTI's and 2nd one loaded up with extras. Swore I'd never have a car without brilliant Xenons again either. Then they stop allowing them as an option by the time I come back to VW! ;-(
                        I think the perfect Golf would be a GTI with AWD. I think they've made the R a bit too hard core for everyday driving (I'm sounding old now !). The Audi S3 is a much more relaxed car but still hammers when you need it to. Get to drive dad's . He's 78 and doesn't drive it like he should!
                        I would have bought a non PP GTI sunroof, driver assist and Xenons if I could have found one. Found a PP demo with. 80kms on it and VERY happy. I wouldn't want any more power through the front wheels though. Even more axle tramping! I also desperately miss my manual but the VAG DSG is at least 2 generations ahead of the miserable Merc equivalent. GTI or R? Both brilliant cars. Can't lose.
                        2010 Mk VI GTI-Red/Manual/Detroits/Park assist/Leather/MDI/Sunroof/Bi-Xenons/Chassis Control/Elec Driver's seat/5 Door/Tint
                        2009 Triumph Street Triple R Matte Blazing Orange
                        1971 Mini Clubman GT

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                        • #13
                          I was a bit put off by the small hatch area in the R because of the Haldex. My other half also didn't like the GTI wheels so ended up with the PP. Do miss the manual a bit though.
                          MK7 GTI PP

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                          • #14
                            In a stunning U-turn I've ditched the Idea of replacing my written of Mk7 R with another R or GTI PP given family constraints (1 car family for 12 months, poor boot space in the R as pointed out by davvee above makes it untenable as a family 'wagon') and instead have ordered a new white Passat Alltrack with custom matte black powder coated rims and tint (very good deal helped ease my pain of waving goodbye to the R). Further, I will bide my time and satisfy my need for speed when we need a 2nd car in 12 months with the next generation bargain Polo GTI (will be running the tasty VAG 1.8l turbo it appears). Farewell for some time Golf

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                            • #15
                              Wise Choice

                              (I've got an Alltrack too)

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