Golf R 400 confirmed for production !

[Billecartz]

I would order one!

I would also be putting down a deposit if it became a reality.
However I highly doubt it will come if we can't even get a non detuned R due to our "weather"
How could they bring in a 295kw version of the same engine?
Also ADR would just make it too hard for VGA.
Pity I would love to have one. Also it would be great to leave that GTS HSV in the dust.




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[qsz]

Hi All,
Please all call your VW dealers or email VWA so they get the idea we want the 400 here.
I called a mate who is a dealer manager today to tell him i'm 100% in for a car. He's going to speak with VWA to get their comment on a possibility. I'll let you know what he says.

cheers...

[Candyman]

I would also be putting down a deposit if it became a reality.
However I highly doubt it will come if we can't even get a non detuned R due to our "weather"
How could they bring in a 295kw version of the same engine?
Also ADR would just make it too hard for VGA.
Pity I would love to have one. Also it would be great to leave that GTS HSV in the dust.




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It isn't the same engine though (as the MKVI R) - has strengthened internals (according to VW)

The "detuning" is irrelevant. Even if they take it down a notch, a simple stage 1 tune will return that and more. VW will not launch a model anywhere that is "strung out" - it isn't in their nature.

Not sure what you mean about the ADR comment as kW/KG is already this high in other vehicles here.

[AdamD]

It was ADRs, the mooted $100k price tag and the fact the model was almost at the end of its life cycle which stopped Australia from taking the last RS3. It was available in RHD - the Brits got it.

Spot-on there Dutch. With respect to ADRs, the specific problem was that the RS3 utilised CFRP (carbon fibre reinforced polymer) front guards - something that is expressly prohibited by ADRs in Australia. So the factory would have had to produce unique aluminium guards just for the Australian market - something they weren't prepared to do for such small anticipated volumes.

Gaining ADR compliance for a limited model is not a difficult thing to do, but it does cost money - so obviously VWA will do the sums and work out whether there's a business case for it or not. They haven't even confirmed they'll make it in RHD yet...

[pologti18t]

Is this official? NOt being reported as 100% elsewhere

Volkswagen reveals new 280km/h Golf R400

It all hinges on an article Car and Driver logged on April 20 that has been reported on by other news sources

[AdamD]

Is this official? NOt being reported as 100% elsewhere

It all hinges on an article Car and Driver logged on April 20 that has been reported on by other news sources

It's not yet official. Just based on a comment from the R&D chief to Car & Driver. Serious conversations have started with a lot less evidence in the past!

[gareth_oau]

The thing is that most of the S/RS models often come at the end of the model run. So the RS4 is on the B8's last legs the moment its out.

But with the R400, it's still pretty early in the cycle. They could of course make it a special edition but if they are really smart about it, they could come out with a mid-cycle facelift and introduce the new engine (maybe detuned slightly) for MY16 as an across the board change for the Rs. Pricing wise, it's a bit of a squeeze now, not just in Australia but also in Europe, with Mercedes putting downward pressure on all the other makes with their keenly priced A45s, so I am not sure if there is enough breathing space to price the R400 competitively.

I love what Mercs have done with the A45 pricing, it make huge competition for Audi/VW/BMW to step up and compete.

and if they don't they will lose a lot of loyalty to people who switch to the A45

[gareth_oau]

Spot-on there Dutch. With respect to ADRs, the specific problem was that the RS3 utilised CFRP (carbon fibre reinforced polymer) front guards - something that is expressly prohibited by ADRs in Australia. So the factory would have had to produce unique aluminium guards just for the Australian market - something they weren't prepared to do for such small anticipated volumes.

Gaining ADR compliance for a limited model is not a difficult thing to do, but it does cost money - so obviously VWA will do the sums and work out whether there's a business case for it or not. They haven't even confirmed they'll make it in RHD yet...

This just demonstrates how ludicrous our ADRs are - just another form of tariff to make imports less competitive

[a239947]

This just demonstrates how ludicrous our ADRs are - just another form of tariff to make imports less competitive

I dont think this rules exists anymore. 911 RS 4.0 has carbon front guards as does the Lamborghini Aventador and they both are sold in australia. Our ADRs were changed a few years ago to align closer to europe so that manufacturers didnt have to build special vehicles to comply with our laws. Thats the reason for the influx of euro manufacturers over the last few years.
Besides the hoods scoop on the bug eyed WRX STI never met any ADRs and they got it passed! It looked like they built an opera house on the bonnet!

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[pologti18t]

This just demonstrates how ludicrous our ADRs are - just another form of tariff to make imports less competitive

Explain the USA and Canada. Makes our ADRs (which have been mostly harmonised) look easy as pie.

[Jimi]

Yeah at least we're not forced to put ugly orange reflectors all over ours

[asa572]

[gt_eye]

2015 Volkswagen Golf VII R400 Concept

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knkdpgZOKAQ

I just want one!!!

[lambertia]

I'm hoping that the R wagon appears!

[irossiter]

Looks like a beast but those wheels are shocking. Even worse than the R.