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  • #16
    Originally posted by grtuned View Post
    Hill hold assist and brake assist are two totally different features and should not be confused. Firstly hill hold is controlled by the electric hand brake and is always operational if switched. Second brake assist is controlled by the ABS module this applies brake fluid pressure for a maximum 3 seconds before it's released and car will begin to roll it only works on an incline in D or R but will not work in D if the car is pointing down a hill. The problem with the DSG is it's all to technical for people to understand when all that anyone wants to do is just drive. How confusing has everyone's explanations been do this,do that,stop here,press this and so on. DSG'S are by far the worst gearbox the only thing they do well is change gear quickly when will VW axe these rubbish units and bring back a regular auto so people can just drive???
    Yep Op said he was reversing UP a slope so should have held for the usual time. If he didn't press accelerator it would have released and let it run down hill I guess.

    Havent had any problems with the DSG but reading through threads on here has taught me a fair bit as to its little idiosyncrasies.
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    • #17
      But with the e brake on, will the car roll before the dsg bites?
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      • #18
        To the OP, have you read the manual yet?

        Modern cars, especially high tech european ones, aren't like a car ten years ago. With all the extra features and technology they take a bit of practice (and a good read of the manual) to get used to.

        The DSG doesn't behave like a traditional automatic gearbox. It is mechanically fundamentally different. It's actually far more like a manual gearbox, except instead of you having to depress the clutch and change gears, there's a computer and some clever robotics that do it for you. But these robotics don't have human intuition, so you need to get used to how they behave and adjust your driving to suit.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by grtuned View Post
          when will VW axe these rubbish units and bring back a regular auto so people can just drive???
          are you sure that they will be able to just drive? I see everyday people are struggling to just drive, a very simple task could be just very difficult for some who don't concentrate on driving thinking about who knows what?

          Look, people will post in the forum and not look for the information at the dealer or car manufacturer. They probably don't even know that there is a owner's manual in the glovebox and they have to read it.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by tonymy01 View Post
            But with the e brake on, will the car roll before the dsg bites?
            Not normally as it doesn't release until you poke the loud pedal then it goes POP and away you go.

            If the OP released the brake himself and didn't hit GO it would of course roll away.

            Strange about no brakes when he hit them though.
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            • #21
              I would say they were nervous and managed to, while the engine wasn't running, modulate the foot brake pedal evacuating all the stored booster vacuum. So switch off ebrake, and not realise pedal needs more pressure with no vacuum assist= car starts rolling.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Tobes_WIR35 View Post
                The DSG doesn't behave like a traditional automatic gearbox. It is mechanically fundamentally different. It's actually far more like a manual gearbox, except instead of you having to depress the clutch and change gears, there's a computer and some clever robotics that do it for you. But these robotics don't have human intuition, so you need to get used to how they behave and adjust your driving to suit.
                There was an episode on the Lamborghini with the twin clutch gearbox, and this is exactly what they said on that program. It is time that VW started telling buyers this. It does not make it worse, just lets people know. There are many advantages that come with a DSG, just that you do need to be mechanically sensitive when driving.

                There are some people who are simply not suited to it. It does not make them any less competent as drivers, just that if you do not have a mechanical understanding, then you are more likely than not to have issues with it.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by grtuned View Post
                  when will VW axe these rubbish units and bring back a regular auto so people can just drive???
                  Probably when Apple and Samsung stop making smartphones and go back to something akin to the Nokia 3310.

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                  • #24
                    If the salesman told new owners about it there would be a lot less trouble.

                    On both my cars I was never told anything about the tranny.

                    I learned it all from here and working out what caused the clutch problems.

                    Luckily I haven't had any but then we drive our cars like we own them, Not like we stole them LOL
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                    • #25
                      The funny thing about the DSG is that it performs best when you're driving it like you stole it...apparently I mean....lol

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tobes_WIR35 View Post
                        The funny thing about the DSG is that it performs best when you're driving it like you stole it...apparently I mean....lol
                        Everyone can have an opinion, however I disagree with that.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Tobes_WIR35 View Post
                          The funny thing about the DSG is that it performs best when you're driving it like you stole it...apparently I mean....lol
                          Maybe but will it last Thrash anything hard enough and it will die.

                          Your car your money but we prefer to treat it gently.

                          Was brought up with the theory if you don't break it you don't have to fix it.

                          Has worked for 55 years of driving and over 40 cars in that time.

                          However my first one, an Austin A70 Hereford broke an axle and stripped 2nd gear Both of which they were nearly as famous for as DSG problems

                          RofL
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                          • #28
                            Sorry, I was being facetious. Sarcasm and humor are difficult to express with text...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Tobes_WIR35 View Post
                              Sorry, I was being facetious. Sarcasm and humor are difficult to express with text...
                              How true, I wondered And yes those who experiment with launch control etc then start posting about clutch problems etc

                              I wonder why LOL
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