Recall of 7spd DSG (excludes Mk7)

[Amalgam]

Volkswagen recall extended

Hi All,

I am considering purchasing a 103 TSI Highline. Are there known reliability issues with the DSG?

Thanks in advance.

[Cuthbert]

Does anyone know whether the DSG in the new Golf 7 is significantly improved over the previous version. Or is it the same?

[DoggieHowser]

There is a similar recall on the 7 speed gearboxes used in some VW cars in Singapore which IIRC are also sourced from the same factories as the Australian vehicles. So the spokesman for VW Australia has shot himself in the foot.

However the recall does not affect the Mk7.

The Singapore forum (VAGSG) has inputs from owners of the Mk7 which claim the 7-speed DSG in the Mk7 feels different from the ones in their older VW rides, particularly the 1st to 2nd gear jerkiness.

[Ryan_R]

I have a MK6 118TSI and have test driven the new 103TSI. The feeling of the DSG is soooooooo much better. No more hesitation from standstill, no jerks in start/stop, no clunks. Feels a lot more like a traditional auto. Of course it's a brand new car so hard to tell but I wouldn't expect to see issues with it compared with the early MK6s).

[Golf7]

Does anyone know whether the DSG in the new Golf 7 is significantly improved over the previous version. Or is it the same?

Much improved gearbox, inside it looks way different. Saw a cutaway at the launch compared to the old one... Works 10 times better too in real life, not so much on the go when you're rolling as the old one was perfect but when you're moving off in traffic, starting up hills... It is much better with less hesitation too.

[Golf7]

I have a MK6 118TSI and have test driven the new 103TSI. The feeling of the DSG is soooooooo much better. No more hesitation from standstill, no jerks in start/stop, no clunks. Feels a lot more like a traditional auto. Of course it's a brand new car so hard to tell but I wouldn't expect to see issues with it compared with the early MK6s).

The fact that it's brand new should actually make the experience worse as everything is still tight. You're so very right about the experience, it's awesome!

[Golf7]

There is a similar recall on the 7 speed gearboxes used in some VW cars in Singapore which IIRC are also sourced from the same factories as the Australian vehicles. So the spokesman for VW Australia has shot himself in the foot.

However the recall does not affect the Mk7.

The Singapore forum (VAGSG) has inputs from owners of the Mk7 which claim the 7-speed DSG in the Mk7 feels different from the ones in their older VW rides, particularly the 1st to 2nd gear jerkiness.

I hate how Gehling just refuses to do something, he knows that something's wrong, we know that something's wrong, yet no action is taken. At least the extended warranty is a step in the right direction...

But then again what would be the corrective action for the DSG??? Replacing it and throwing it out completely?

[Ryan_R]

Chuck in one of the other DQ models... but then you'll get some people complaining that their l/100k went up

[Golf7]

I can see why he's doing what he's doing, they'll never win...

[blutopless2]

No more hesitation from standstill, no jerks in start/stop, no clunks.

If you have hesitation, jerkiness or clunky gear changes the gearbox is not working correctly.

[Rawcpoppa]

Much improved gearbox, inside it looks way different. Saw a cutaway at the launch compared to the old one... Works 10 times better too in real life, not so much on the go when you're rolling as the old one was perfect but when you're moving off in traffic, starting up hills... It is much better with less hesitation too.

Do you have a link to the cutaway or a document stating the differences? I have a service manual for the new dq200 and the servicing seems to be exactly the same as that found in older dq200 DSGs.

[Ryan_R]

If you have hesitation, jerkiness or clunky gear changes the gearbox is not working correctly.

I've had both the clutch pack and mechatronics replaced last year, then added Guy's DSG tune and have accepted that this is as good as it's going to get for this car.

The point I was trying to make was that with the Mk6, you had to drive it like a manual, but I didn't get that feeling driving the Mk7

[Golf7]

If you have hesitation, jerkiness or clunky gear changes the gearbox is not working correctly.

Nope, Ryan was completely right, the old DSG was a bit annoying around town or in carparks... Made some friends think I was crazy reversing up a steep driveway on gravel... Rolling down and then wheelspin on the way up... Must have been hilarious to watch!

[cktsi]

I have a MK6 118TSI and have test driven the new 103TSI. The feeling of the DSG is soooooooo much better. No more hesitation from standstill, no jerks in start/stop, no clunks. Feels a lot more like a traditional auto. Of course it's a brand new car so hard to tell but I wouldn't expect to see issues with it compared with the early MK6s).

Aaaarg... Tut! Tut! Tut! Tut! Tut! Tut! Tut!

That is how I felt about the DQ200 originally in my car, but things deteriorated over time! It is too quick to call.

Back to the OP, from what i understood last time i took the car into VW, the new unit at least has new clutch plate materials. Seems like rawcoppa didnt get any further with his research in this thread.

The new DSG unit has a new designation.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/f197/new-7-speed-dry-clutch-dsg-80143.html

[Rawcpoppa]

Recall of 7spd DSG (China/Japan only, not Mk7)

Yup I'm stumped. New designation but no new documentation I can find. It's still classified as a dq200 so vw probably won't bother releasing specific documentation for 0cw.


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