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  • #16
    Thanks for all replies. Its very disheartening to find out ones car is on its way out... Knowing this, I will persist with complaints to VW. Anyhow the car is still great to drive and luckily is manual. Will post updates as they happen. Thanks again for all the comments.

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    • #17
      Which dealership? some are not very helpful.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
        ^ love how VW claim that the engine rattling (probably pinging) and then a large plume of blue smoke (oil burning) out the exhaust is "normal operation".

        Every car does that right?
        I still see chicks driving along in these completely oblivious to the bouncing marble style noise resonating out from under the bonnet and it makes me cringe.
        The Earlier files in these cars ECU's ran lambda 1 till almost redline - big fail. I have the table here somewhere

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        • #19
          Ouch! Under any kind of boost we really need, what, about 12:1 worst case=0.8lambda. But this is just commanded/open loop you are talking about, right? Closed loop using o2 sensor it should be surely pushing for a richer mixture under any kind of load.
          But I know what you mean, I keep seeing threads mentioning "I hear a marble rattle noise under acceleration, does it need a wastegate clip"...
          I am very familiar to pinging an engine to destruction, having bored out a 200B engine to run flat top (shaved) Toyota pistons in it for a Datto1600, and it was pinging under even mild accel...within a month it had two cracked pistons LOL. Budget uni student solution was to run two head gaskets (after getting another set of pistons shaved down...).
          Last edited by tonymy01; 19-12-2013, 03:35 PM.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by tonymy01 View Post
            Ouch! Under any kind of boost we really need, what, about 12:1 worst case=0.8lambda. But this is just commanded/open loop you are talking about, right? Closed loop using o2 sensor it should be surely pushing for a richer mixture under any kind of load.
            But I know what you mean, I keep seeing threads mentioning "I hear a marble rattle noise under acceleration, does it need a wastegate clip"...
            I am very familiar to pinging an engine to destruction, having bored out a 200B engine to run flat top (shaved) Toyota pistons in it for a Datto1600, and it was pinging under even mild accel...within a month it had two cracked pistons LOL. Budget uni student solution was to run two head gaskets (after getting another set of pistons shaved down...).
            I 'retuned' a Golf R two weeks ago that was running 22 psi with as lean as a 13:1 AFR and then on other runs in the 10's it also had zero modifications to the timing maps - wow what a top tune that was lol. at least they have proper pistons and rods...........actually better not say too much more here for the owners sake
            You can safely run a bit leaner than 12:1 but its not a good idea with cast or hypereutectic cast pistons as they don't like knock at all.
            Last edited by parso_rex; 19-12-2013, 09:51 PM.

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            • #21
              Same issue previously.... And I was meant to get the service campaign before delivery but it wasn't done until 15,000km service! Shaking a spray can noise and then Cloud of grey blue smoke. Mentioned it at one service and was told it was normal (wtf?) and had the service manager assured me even his missus 118 did it so not to worry - I must look like an idiot.
              Have to say that since I had other warranty issues fixed - think it stopped around the 2nd water pump, months and months and months ago - no more rattle or smoke... Funny that.
              Since the service I have been getting it serviced else where and only recorded problem was a miss communication between the ecu and the gearbox ... Had the recall work done on the DSG but that was at the dealer.
              Car still running fine, oil useage within 'guidelines' and I check it every week.
              Love the brand, just think There are more lemons than good 118's!!
              MY14 Audi S3 - Misano Red, S-tronic, Performance pack with parade red trim.

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              • #22
                I never got to the bottom of this particular issue. I started that thread about the "blow up" but even after the new injector i still had the tick tick... Plume issue. Bel's description is accurate... Sounds like a ball bearing shaking spray can before you get the plume.

                Over time mine stopped, but it is disconcerting to read your frequency is increasing. I agree with the others and book it in to look at, just for the record. This is so that you can point to having reported the issue prior to the warranty running out, and they will honour it.

                Also do what i did... Give them the sob story you are worried they will leave you unsupported after the warranty expires and they should take you more seriously. That might goad them into action in investigating further. My sob story got them to replace my clutch a second time after refusing to do so 2 times.

                Btw i thought vw had retrospective 5 year. warranties on engine and drivetrain?

                As to the comment on buying another car instead, i vowed never to buy another VAG car rather than be tempted to a Golf R... Even though i love the tech and general build quality to bits. However, my BMW is giving me issues... Fortunately none are mechanical... But after 9 months i still have excessive road noise. Noisier than even a cheap Kia. Moral of the story... After my mk5 i should have learned to not buy a south african made car.
                Skoda Octavia Mk3
                (sold) Golf Mark 6 Comfortline 118
                (sold) Golf Mark5 Comfortline Manual 2.0 FSI

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