Model year?

[Ryan_R]

MY changes around July each year and just represents minor changes to the car. So MY13 covers July 2012 to June 2013.

My 2009 Golf is a MY10 (delivered September).

[Guest001]

MY changes around July each year and just represents minor changes to the car. So MY13 covers July 2012 to June 2013.

My 2009 Golf is a MY10 (delivered September).

My Polo is an MY11 with a build date of Sept 2010 and I had a large argument with a certain insurance company who wanted an extra 25% for the extended warranty because of the build date.

After a lot of back and forth they finally admitted it was an error in their system and the 2010 had been flagged as a higher risk category then the 2011.

After I asked them what was the difference between a car with a build date of 28 Dec 2010 to one with a date of Jan 4th 2011 they did some research and gave me a refund of the difference.

Persistence pays

[Tobes_WIR35]

Most valuations that I've seen are based on model year rather than build date. My understanding is that car manufacturers start building the next model year around June so they hit dealerships by September. People are happy to buy a 2012 model in October 2012 but expect discounts on last years car come Jan 2013.

The year that appears on your rego will be the "compliance date". My car was built in late 2010 in Germany, but was complied February 2011 in Australia. It is registered as a 2011 Golf GTI DSG Adidas due to the compliance date. To all authorities, insurance companies etc it is a 2011 model. 2011 is the year in which it turned from being an assembly of parts, into a vehicle registerable on australian roads. I don't know whether it is an "MY10" or "MY11" but judging by what people have said it's probably an MY11.

It sounds like maybe the salesperson either misunderstood what you were asking, or creatively led you to believe that the car you were buying was a 2013 model, which technically it is, but I assume you were actually wanting a 2013 complied vehicle so when you go to sell it, you'll be selling a 2013 plate vehicle and not a 2012 plate vehicle. Sound about right?

It wouldn't surprise me, because when I was bargaining with another dealer at the time, he was trying to steer me away from the Adidas so I would buy a GTI from them, because he said that all Adidas cars are 2010 build, which concerned me initially until I checked with the dealer selling the Adidas who then confirmed it was complied in 2011 therefore it would be registered as a 2011 model. They say what they have to say to get you to buy the car.

[Guest001]

The year that appears on your rego will be the "compliance date". My car was built in late 2010 in Germany, but was complied February 2011 in Australia. It is registered as a 2011 Golf GTI DSG Adidas due to the compliance date. To all authorities, insurance companies etc it is a 2011 model. 2011 is the year in which it turned from being an assembly of parts, into a vehicle registerable on australian roads. I don't know whether it is an "MY10" or "MY11" but judging by what people have said it's probably an MY11.

It sounds like maybe the salesperson either misunderstood what you were asking, or creatively led you to believe that the car you were buying was a 2013 model, which technically it is, but I assume you were actually wanting a 2013 complied vehicle so when you go to sell it, you'll be selling a 2013 plate vehicle and not a 2012 plate vehicle. Sound about right?

It wouldn't surprise me, because when I was bargaining with another dealer at the time, he was trying to steer me away from the Adidas so I would buy a GTI from them, because he said that all Adidas cars are 2010 build, which concerned me initially until I checked with the dealer selling the Adidas who then confirmed it was complied in 2011 therefore it would be registered as a 2011 model. They say what they have to say to get you to buy the car.

Well contrary to your situation my insurance company asked for the "build date" and werent interested at all in the fact that it was an MY11.
They said the risk is calculated on the year of build.

Your VIN number will tell you which model it is as the 10th digit is what defines that. B is 2011 which is on my car but was built 10/10 and complianced 11/10 so is a 2010 but is a MY11. I thought it took 2 months to get here but maybe not.

"They say what they have to say to get you to buy the car" Maybe he did.

The details are on the compliance plate on the B pillar when you open the passenger door

[pologti18t]

Compliance date has little, if anything, to do with car valuations or insurance.

I just went to the AAMI site for insurance. The question is "When was your car manufactured". That's not compliance date (which could be months or years after build date)

I went to the NRMA site and it says "Year the car was made"

Model Year will have an affect if two cars made in the same year have different Model Year designations signifying an upgrade.
Then again it could work the other way if the MY change introductions equipment deletions or downgrades.

[Guest001]

Compliance date has little, if anything, to do with car valuations or insurance.

I just went to the AAMI site for insurance. The question is "When was your car manufactured". That's not compliance date (which could be months or years after build date)

I went to the NRMA site and it says "Year the car was made"

Model Year will have an affect if two cars made in the same year have different Model Year designations signifying an upgrade.
Then again it could work the other way if the MY change introductions equipment deletions or downgrades.

This was the point I made with mine as I pointed out the MY10 finished in August??? and the MY11 started in Sept with mine being a fairly early one by the chassis number.

After a bit of research they altered their stance about it as I said earlier in the thread

[Guest001]

Most valuations that I've seen are based on model year rather than build date. My understanding is that car manufacturers start building the next model year around June so they hit dealerships by September. People are happy to buy a 2012 model in October 2012 but expect discounts on last years car come Jan 2013.

So using your theory why should they get discounts. They are all the same model year.

However the build date signifies that it was built in the previous year and so that is what it must be advertised as.

If a dealer or you tried to sell me a car as a 2013 and it had a build date of 2012 I would be rather unhappy.

Even Centrelink class mine as a 2010 even though it is an MY11

The Rego form states " Year of Manufacture" and my insurer asked for "build date" for insurance

Good enough for me, they are the ones that matter.

[minke]

I saw it on the showroom floor around that date so it almost certainly wasn't on that boat. All I know is the build date is the date when the engine and the chassis are bolted together and that was mid June in my case. I have no idea how long the rest of the build or how long it would kick about in Germany before catching the boat over here.

I take it you've got a car on that boat?

Yes. My car was on that boat. That boat landed in Melbourne 27th Dec, and then 29th Dec in Port Kembla (I'm in Sydney)

As of yesterday, the dealer told me that Patricks has not released the car yet. So that is, to my mind, a long time for Patricks to submit paper work and rivit a compliance plate to the chassis!

[Diesel_vert]

I picked up what is supposed to be a MY13 gti today only to find the rego sticker reads "2012 VW". When I was looking to buy the vehicle last week, I was assured 3 times by the salesman that it was indeed a MY13. He even produced some paperwork and pointed to the last 2 numbers which seemed to indicate it was a 13 model. I called up a vw mechanic that I know and he said to check the sixth character on the chassis number - a D would indicate my13. It checked out and it has a build date of June 2012 but the D was there (I heard somewhere that vw start building a model year from week 22 so it would be a very early build).

The "model year" and the "build date" do not always coincide.

Wikipedia explains the concept in detail - Model year

Volkswagen defines their "model year" in the following way:

MY11 (B) covers mid-year 2010 to mid-year 2011
MY12 (C) covers mid-year 2011 to mid-year 2012
MY13 (D) covers mid-year 2012 to mid-year 2013 (or until whenever production makes way for the Mk7 Golf)

etc.

So does anyone know how to definitively check the model year? I'm hoping it could just be an admin error...

As already mentioned, the 10th digit of the VIN represents the vehicle's "model year".

If it's a "D", then it's definitely MY13.

[Guest001]

The "model year" and the "build date" do not always coincide.

Wikipedia explains the concept in detail - Model year

Volkswagen defines their "model year" in the following way:

MY11 (B) covers mid-year 2010 to mid-year 2011
MY12 (C) covers mid-year 2011 to mid-year 2012
MY13 (D) covers mid-year 2012 to mid-year 2013 (or until whenever production makes way for the Mk7 Golf)

etc.




As already mentioned, the 10th digit of the VIN represents the vehicle's "model year".

If it's a "D", then it's definitely MY13.

Even so if the build date is 2012 its NOT a 2013 despite what the salesman tells you. Wait till you go to insure it then you will find out also it will say on the rego certificate

[Diesel_vert]

Even so if the build date is 2012 its NOT a 2013 despite what the salesman tells you. Wait till you go to insure it then you will find out also it will say on the rego certificate

Yeah, I know the model year and build date aren't the same thing, just explaining how Volkswagen can designate a vehicle built in 2012 as a "MY13" vehicle.

I leave the rest of the world to interpret that as they wish.

[Guest001]

Yeah, I know the model year and build date aren't the same thing, just explaining how Volkswagen can designate a vehicle built in 2012 as a "MY13" vehicle.

I leave the rest of the world to interpret that as they wish.

Diesel_vert explained it perfectly and most other car makers do the same Its by no means exclusive to VW

[Ryan_R]

At least when all the cars are listed it's easier for me to tell, since the MY before my car was the Mk5 Golf

[richmurphy]

So using your theory why should they get discounts. They are all the same model year.

You're quite right. I didn't proof read my message properly. What I was trying to say is you'd expect a discount on a MY12 car if you walked into a dealership today. That same car in Oct 2012 wouldn't seem like such a bad proposition so it makes it easier for dealerships to sell without heavy discounting.

[richmurphy]

I think I understand now. The dealer had stated that it will be a MY13 with a 2013 registration. I thought that the registration date would dictate the year printed on the rego sticker and obviously that logic was incorrect. So what exactly is a compliance date? Is it the date it arrives in the country?