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  • #16
    Originally posted by AdamD View Post

    I turned on the door lock/unlock chirp with VCDS for this very reason. Now if it doesn't chirp when I lock the car, I know something's not quite shut. (And that something can often be the tailgate - if you've opened it to take something out after getting out of the car, it's not like you'll see the indication in the MFD.)
    As well as it is easy to reach into a pocket and press a button to lock or unlock and inadvertently push the middle one to unlock the boot - which it does but there's no obvious sign the boot is unlocked and open
    2010 R36 (MY10.5), Biscay Blue, RNS510, MDI, Electric tailgate, sunroof, Superchips remap - SOLD
    2016 Octavia VRS wagon, moon white, Tech Pack, 18" black pack, electric boot, panoramic sunroof, Bluefin

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    • #17
      Just got the battery tested at Battery World.
      Printout they gave me shows:

      Volts: 12.58V
      Measured: 635 CCA
      Rating: 600 CCA


      They said that it should be up around 13.5 Volts... and not 12.58 after only 7 months, and that I should go see VW.
      Last edited by justin; 08-03-2012, 03:44 PM.

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      • #18
        That is a total crock. The charged voltage of a car battery is 2.1V per cell, with 6cells=12.6V. Your car battery provides plenty of cranking amps, it is no where near end of life. The only time it would read 13.5-14V is when the engine is running, and they definitely wouldn't want to be load testing it like that (blown alternator probably).
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        • #19
          Originally posted by justin View Post
          Just got the battery tested at Battery World.
          Printout they gave me shows:

          Volts: 12.58V
          Measured: 635 CCA
          Rating: 300 CCA


          They said that it should be up around 13.5 Volts... and not 12.58 after only 7 months, and that I should go see VW.
          It's more likely 300CCA Measured and the Rating is 635CCA, which would be most likely flat battery or the battery that needs replacing.
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          • #20
            Oh whoop! I meant 600, and not 300 sorry. Have corrected my post.

            ---------- Post added at 03:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:45 PM ----------

            Booked it in to get a new battery (which they have told me should be under warranty) next Tuesday.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by justin View Post
              Booked it in to get a new battery (which they have told me should be under warranty) next Tuesday.
              From the evidence you have posted, the battery is fine. That battery place that said it should be 13.5 surely must have been a work experience kid?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by tonymy01 View Post
                From the evidence you have posted, the battery is fine. That battery place that said it should be 13.5 surely must have been a work experience kid?
                x2.

                Without knowing exactly how they did the test it's hard to be 100% certain, but a fully charged 12V battery, at rest, should be around 12.6V - that 13.5V figure is nonsense.

                If the 12.58 was measured at the battery, while the engine is running, then I would agree that there is a problem, as I would expect 13.5V as an absolute minimum. If this was the case, I would suspect a fault with the charging system before the battery.
                Former owner of MY12 GTD with DSG

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ParaBul View Post
                  x2.

                  Without knowing exactly how they did the test it's hard to be 100% certain, but a fully charged 12V battery, at rest, should be around 12.6V - that 13.5V figure is nonsense.If the 12.58 was measured at the battery, while the engine is running, then I would agree that there is a problem, as I would expect 13.5V as an absolute minimum. If this was the case, I would suspect a fault with the charging system before the battery.
                  Yes I agree, and I will make your statement more accurate and easier to understand to others less familiar with the car charging systems.

                  When you switch the engine OFF and measure the voltage within short time, lets say 15 minutes or less then you can see 13.5V on the voltmeter and it can actually stay at 13.5V for quite a while. So, if you want to be more accurate with measuring the battery voltage, then remove the surface charge by turning the headlights on Hi-Beam for 30s while the engine is OFF and immediately measure the voltage.

                  Don't get tricked by the systems where the ECU monitors and manage the battery charging, where the battery is charged only when it requires charging. In these, the batterty voltage can be 12.7V with the engine runing, basically all cars with the stop start technology.
                  Last edited by Transporter; 10-03-2012, 11:41 AM.
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                  • #24
                    Hi there. We've just bought a Mk 6 GTD in black with DSG. Upon collection the sales guy told us that the vehicle will 'sound a 'Bong' alarm if the battery voltage is low, which it did as we collected it from the dealer. He said it needed driving to charge it and that it won't do it again.. It hasn't either! Your should have kicked off if the voltage was low..
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                    • #25
                      Seems like I jinxed myself replying to this thread...went to start my 2 year & 10 month old Tiguan at the supermarket today and the battery was totally dead, only drove the car there not 10mins earlier. Called VW Assist and they sent out RACQ who replaced the battery under warranty, had $199 on the receipt, glad I didn't have to pay for it...top service from VW assist and RACQ.
                      2012 GTD, DSG, White, RVC, RCD510 Dynaudio, R LED Tails

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                      • #26
                        Looks like you guys were right.
                        VW test the altenator and battery and said that both were fine, and sent me on my way. No replacement needed.
                        They did admit that it was strange though, and told me an keep an eye on it.

                        Thanks for your help everyone!

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