Considering cancelling the 'R' order and keeping the MKV GTI..

[SilvrFoxX]

Has the same smell about it..

[kaanage]

But the OP isn't debating between buying the MkVI GTi and R

He/she has a MkV GTi and is wondering whether to go through with the update/upgrade to the R at all - I haven't seen him/her mention buying the MkVI Gti as an option.

[jlgumby]

Correct! I'm not trying to decide between a MKVI GTI and MKVI R.

I wouldn't consider changing my GTI with another GTI. The draw for me was the R was different, the additional cost is no consideration, just felt the GTI was getting on with it nearing 100K and thought I'd move it on and get something a bit different....... but sort of the same..... if you know what I mean.

It's probably worth noting that I have a dedicated Weekend/Track car also so have no real intention (at this stage anyway) of modifying the R. I'll never take it to the track, and I'll not get caught up in needing to prove how fast it is on the street. Mind you I love a quick blast through the mountains.

So my GTI is very much a pure daily drive as will be the R.

It's manual cos I love the drive, and it's the way that when you feel like it, the GTI just rips through the low RPM shifts without a sweat when you don't feel like making her scream.

I love the look of the R, but still love the look of the GTI also, but I still drive it and wonder if the R will be the same sort of fun. After all the test drives, only one in a manual as they seem to be few and far between, I'm still not certain.

But I appreciate all the comments guys, that's great feedback. I know everyone has an opinion, and they'll all be coming from a different place. But it's still good to get some of these as a guide.

Again, as a daily, the agility may be an issue, the turning circle may be an issue, but the AWD would be brilliant as my track car is also, and it's Great.

Only reason this is a thought is because I often simply drive down the street, and say to myself "damn this little thing is brilliance!" So just hoping the R gives me the same inspiration.

Never know until I try I suppose.

Thanks again for your feedback. Great to see you guys are all open to offering your thoughts.

[entice]

I'm doing the shift.
Mk6 GTI to MK6 R, after 2 years ownership. Both DSG.

I have a subaru background, with a wrx (heavily modified), STI (again, modified), Forester, and also a family outback hack.
Once you experience AWD there is no secure sensation and take off motion of "one-ness". if you've experienced it, you know what I mean...
the "agility" argument doesnt hold for me. If I wanted to take an agile car to work, I'd take the NA MX5 that's sitting in the garage.
Indeed. As it stands at the moment I try to take that to work as much as possible, compared to the GTI. Perhaps the XDL in the GTI is too clinical and spoils the fun? not sure. The MX5 is so much more a fun car to drive, with about half the power of the GTI.
Besides, given you're currently on order for a 12 R, the ESP will be fully switchable. 4wd drifting is so much fun!

But, then again I can say that.. i have had my order switched for a car currently on the production line, after wallowing in "still not scheduled for production" since late November...

[SilvrFoxX]

I'm doing the shift.
Mk6 GTI to MK6 R, after 2 years ownership. Both DSG.

I have a subaru background, with a wrx (heavily modified), STI (again, modified), Forester, and also a family outback hack.
Once you experience AWD there is no secure sensation and take off motion of "one-ness". if you've experienced it, you know what I mean...
the "agility" argument doesnt hold for me. I

+1 .. hard to explain to those who havn't been expose to AWD.. it is just right

[kaanage]

fanbois win - merge the thread

[jlgumby]

Don't stress Kaanage, we have what we were looking for here.

I get the sense that as a day to day proposition, which is what this will be, it is an overall nicer place to be than a MkV with a more solid and grounded feel and ride with better NVH suppression and a much improved interior, which is something I obviously could assess.

I too had a subie in the form of a Liberty 3.0R spec B, and this was actually where it came from, because as great as the AWD traction was, the car was as boring as a silent fart to get around in. I bought it new and got rid of it 1.5 years later.

So AWD is not the be all and end all of a car for me. However, that's not to say they can't be fun, my other thing is an old Nissan GTR and although not a traditional AWD, it still provides that sort of ridiculous traction albeit with a little more tail wagging attitude.

Been reading some more reviews also, thinking I should stick with the order now. Thanks again.

[WhiteJames]

Mark 7 Golf R or its Cousin?

Audi is due to unveil the next gen (read MK7 Golf) Audi A3 3 door in March 2012. The 5 door Sportback and Audi S3 will be unveiled later in October this year - only 9 mths away. Australia may be no longer than 6 months later for release of the same Audi vehicles, which makes it early 2013. Waiting up to 9 mths for a Golf R order will put you close to the relase of an Audi S3 model if your budget stretches that far. Best to wait for the MK7 Golf R imo. See link for pics of interior for next gen (MK7) Audi A3 interior. Pics also show the external parts of the Audi A3 on the dashboard display:

Audi unveils new A3 interior at 2012 CES | Automotive & Motoring News | Car Magazine Online

I changed over from a MKV GTI to MK6 GTI and am very happy. My neighbour ordered a Golf R and was going to change from an R32 to the Golf R, but cancelled due to delays, not enough bling and only improvements over the R32 being nicer interior, meatier top end thrust and Dynamic Chassis Control. He's going to wait until the Mark 7 GTI and R arrives to reconsider.

Cheers.
WJ

[Candyman]

The endless wait ....

[entice]

i'm sorry, but that makes "limited" sense.
if cancelling now due to a proposed 9 month wait, and then re-ordering once the Mk7 arrives, won't there be a similar wait time then? and by that time, aren't you better off waiting for the MY14 or 14.5 , or 15 and so on and so on. I'm not sure about everyone else, but I live in the hear and now... and please, I am sure you understand there is no offense intended there.

But I do agree.. you do have options.
I also priced up an S3. also has ridiculous wait times.. but you can get a nice one which does not have sat nav, is the outgoing model, and my11 plated, for $88,861 OTR. over the phone I chatted him down to $76.200. and it was not similarly specced to the R (flat bottom steering wheel $700, sat nav $5K).
I later haggled down a Limited edition S3 (5door) to $78K. that's a lmost $20K more than my higher specced R is costing me, but I would get free servicing for 3 years and a nicer sunroof.
Again, both these models are outgoing, 2011 plated vehicles currently in stock.

I think just hold a sec. The Roc is now released and tehre will be others in teh same boat, that may be switching their orders. I would suggest you get friendly and chatty with your dealer about finding out what other cars are on their way already scheduled for production that are unallocated or dealer only allocated, and do a swap. You may have to compromise on options or colour, but you can still negotiate....

just means you will get it sooner.

[jlgumby]

Thanks guys, I did look into the Audi although this was the current sportback. Don't like the aesthetics at all, and even the interior I was not that keen on. And I'd feel like I was paying for a brand, which we all know.............. don't want to start anything here.

Agree with entice, can't forever be waiting for the next model, unless what you see from a preview is an enormous improvement over the current such that you just must have, then I get it. Really appreciate the ideas though mate.

The reason it doesn't sound so good was that I thought I'd move the GTI prior to getting too close to 100K so it didn't hit that psychological mark, but now the wait is so long, I'll probably get there, and have to go through the major service, and possibly have to look at brakes. So I'll do all this good stuff, then sell it.

For those of you wondering, i ordered at the end of Oct 2011, they told me 6 months, they've now told me somewhere in may, but can't really tell me anything else.

So the idea of looking into some cancelled orders is quite a good one. Will do that.

And Candy, everytime I see your Avatar, I just really want one again. Love the photo!!!

Probably cos of the similarity to my track thing......

[entice]

And Candy, everytime I see your Avatar, I just really want one again.

except with black wheels....

[WhiteJames]

An extended wait for a new gen Audi S3 makes sense if the Audi S3 (and MK7 Golf R) is much improved over the current model - lighter with greater agility, more frugal, new gen reworked & highly strung EA888 motor (possibly with twin turbo according to some reports), new tech and possibly additional std equipment for roughly the same price due to the cheaper build cost of the MQB platform & enhanced safety features that come with every newly improved model. Probably improved resale value over a current Audi S3 model which will be old news in 12 months. Patience is a virtue.
Cheers.
WJ

[entice]

agreed, but in that 12 months of "patience" and decreased resale, you've also had 12 months use...
so it's a moot point

there is a reason why you can get a good discount on the "current model". I'm not sure that the same level of discount will apply to an up and coming model..
same goes for the R.

At first, dealers wouldn't budge on price..Now, it's a different story.

I'm sure that no matter what the end decision is, the OP will find a variety of reasons to justify his/her decision.

Neither is right or wrong in my eyes, but it's being comfortable with the decision that matters.

Personally, regret is something that I chose to avoid.. hence my sig.... (courtesy of Carmella Soprano)

[Candyman]

The endless wait (the WJ method)

Just buy one. By the time the next one comes around you will have enjoyed the current model and be ready for the next (better) model