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  • How to reset/apply Basic Settings for the 7 Speed DSG?

    I want to reset my DSG using my VAGCOM cable, and all the documentation I can find about DSG reset is for the 6 Speed DSG

    Anybody knows how can I perform these settings for the 7 Speed? Are the procedures the same? I basically don't want to f*ck up my gearbox and have to tow my car to the dealership or something...

    Thanks in advance!

  • #2
    Basic settings do not need to be done unless your replacing the mechatronics or the gearbox??? Are u having issues???

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    • #3
      The documentation doesn't exist for the 7 speed, it can be done with the factory tool though
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      • #4
        It can be done with VAS-PC, but it is only for new transmissions and mechatronics. Don't do it, otherwise.
        '07 Transporter 1.9 TDI
        '01 Beetle 2.0

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        • #5
          I want to reset it because after much research online about some of the issues I've been experiencing with my car (jerky and untimely shifting between 1st and 2nd gear at low speeds), most of them directly point to the DSG needing to re-adapt.

          Also, alot of people report improvement after performing basic settings on their 6speed DSG, so I thought I might try it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Digitalic View Post
            I want to reset it because after much research online about some of the issues I've been experiencing with my car (jerky and untimely shifting between 1st and 2nd gear at low speeds), most of them directly point to the DSG needing to re-adapt.
            Sure you haven't got this??? ......http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...ear-45873.html Not resolved yet in the Bulletin 2026097/1 (see page 3).

            There is a DSG 7 speed Controller software update recently. Pop into the dealer and ask. Gives different speed (mph) change points for the gears and quicker manual gear changing as well.

            As said above - Basic Settings ..... not for this sort of problem.
            VW SCIROCCO 1.4TSI - DSG (MY2010) UK, East Cheshire.
            Build Complete October Wk43/09, Driving 4th November - Wk44/09. Sorted !

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            • #7
              The basic settings or adaptation on the 7 speed are not the same for the 6 speed. On the 6 speed you are relying on oil pressure for your clamping & having the clutch clearance tolerances correct is most important (and that is the big thing - syncing the clutch side with the mechatronics) On the 7 speed, the clutch runs more "traditional" sprung pressure plates, so its a whole different issue.

              Having recently done a lot of work on both the 6 & 7 speed clutch packs - the initial setup is crucial (and the initial clutch pack shimming) for the initial mechatronics sync, on the 7 speed you can't reset the clutches as its mechanical (where you can on the 6 speed).

              Worth looking into the software as above, otherwise it might be a sticky mech! (hope that's not too confusing)
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              • #8
                Thanks alot for the advice guys, I guess I'll drop by the dealership and see what's up with the new software update. BTW, last time I was there (on July) I asked them to do a DSG software update. This is what VCDS says right now about my DSG


                Address 02: Auto Trans
                Control Module Part Number: 0AM 300 048 L
                Component and/or Version: GSG DSG AG7 402 2150
                Software Coding: 0000020
                Work Shop Code: WSC 36000
                VCID: 397D29D70B99

                Advanced Identification

                Serial number: 00001001291250
                Identification: TFK-030
                Revision: 00040024
                Date: 29.01.10
                Manufacturer number: 1250
                Test stand number: 0000
                Flash Status
                Programming Attempts: 4
                Successful Attempts: 4
                Programming Status: 00000000
                Required Conditions: 00000000
                Flash Tool Code: 82558 360 36000
                Flash Date: 11.14.03
                Software
                000N
                Misc.
                Hardware number: 0AM 927 769 D
                Lot Number: D10
                Type Lock: 000
                VCDS Info:
                Labels: 0AM-300-04X.LBL

                Can you guys tell me which one of these is the software version and what the latest software version is, I think my dealership are just resetting it and not actually updating anything.
                Last edited by Digitalic; 28-10-2011, 12:38 PM.

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                • #9
                  Didn't someone also mention that when they replaced the plugs with the new colder range OR reset the gap the gearbox operation seemed smoother?

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                  • #10
                    Yes me... on http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...tml#post738590

                    I've just updated the topic as the revised plug has introduced the plug gap I have been using for the last 12 months until I went further ie. a slight closing last month.

                    Digitalic's comments above don't quite appear to be the same, ie. the jerky comment but 1 to 2 does. Always worth a try but the plugs ain't cheap (£53 in UK for a set of 4) and gap setting has to be carefully done because of the narrow tip of the centre electrode and possible damage.
                    Last edited by RW1; 29-10-2011, 09:54 AM.
                    VW SCIROCCO 1.4TSI - DSG (MY2010) UK, East Cheshire.
                    Build Complete October Wk43/09, Driving 4th November - Wk44/09. Sorted !

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                    • #11
                      I'd like to share procedure "How to perform basic settings to gearbox DSG 7".

                      Please take a look at my article on Russia Yeti club.

                      I'm sorry, it’s on Russian (in original), but I tried to translate it via Google for you:
                      How to perform basic settings to gearbox DSG 7

                      I hope this information will be helpful.

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                      • #12
                        Thanks UKV

                        Welcome to the forums.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by UKV View Post
                          I'd like to share procedure "How to perform basic settings to gearbox DSG 7".

                          Please take a look at my article on Russia Yeti club.

                          I'm sorry, it’s on Russian (in original), but I tried to translate it via Google for you:
                          How to perform basic settings to gearbox DSG 7

                          I hope this information will be helpful.
                          Dude that's awesome! I will try it out as soon as possible. But just to make sure I understood the Russian translation:

                          1)Handbrake On, Car is in Park and Ignition is on but Engine is off. (Transmission should be warmed up already before doing this)
                          2)Go to 02 - Electronics & Measurement Group / Basic Settings > Group 60 > Read
                          3)Wait for fields to display the following information: 4 - 0 - 0 and then turn on Ignition within 10 seconds. (or it will display 255 - 7 - 0 and this means you'll have to start over again)
                          4)After a few seconds the fields will now display 254 - 0 - 0 which should mean that the process is complete. (Handbrake should be enough to hold car in position, but just to be safe you should fully depress brakes too)
                          5)Exit VAGCOM and turn off engine; Basic settings are now complete.

                          That's all, right?
                          Last edited by Digitalic; 17-11-2011, 01:16 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Digitalic View Post
                            Dude that's awesome! I will try it out as soon as possible. But just to make sure I understood the Russian translation:

                            1)Handbrake On, Car is in Park and Ignition is on but Engine is off. (Transmission should be warmed up already before doing this)
                            2)Go to 02 - Electronics & Measurement Group / Basic Settings > Group 60 > Read
                            3)Wait for fields to display the following information: 4 - 0 - 0 and then turn on Ignition within 10 seconds. (or it will display 255 - 7 - 0 and this means you'll have to start over again)
                            4)After a few seconds the fields will now display 254 - 0 - 0 which should mean that the process is complete. (Handbrake should be enough to hold car in position, but just to be safe you should fully depress brakes too)
                            5)Exit VAGCOM and turn off engine; Basic settings are now complete.

                            That's all, right?
                            Some correction for 3) and 4).
                            3) the "... and then turn on Ignition within 10 seconds" must be replaced with "... and then start engine in next 10 seconds".
                            4) the "... but just to be safe you should fully depress brakes too" is not need to perform.

                            So, full correct version is:

                            1)Handbrake On, Car is in Park and Ignition is on but Engine is off. (Transmission should be warmed up already before doing this)
                            2)Go to 02 - Electronics & Measurement Group / Basic Settings > Group 60 > Read
                            3)Wait for fields to display the following information: 4 - 0 - 0 and then start engine in next 10 seconds. (or it will display 255 - 7 - 0 and this means you'll have to start over again)
                            4)After a few seconds the fields will now display 254 - 0 - 0 which should mean that the process is complete. (Handbrake will be enough to hold car in position)
                            5)Exit VAGCOM and turn off engine; Basic settings are now complete.

                            ---------- Post added at 10:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:47 PM ----------

                            In additional, you may to perform (as optional):

                            "
                            Test drive after DSG 0AM basic settings

                            If the tester is held on the passenger seat or operated from there during the test drive, this
                            can lead to serious injuries during an accident, if the passenger airbag goes off.

                            Please take good care of the traffic. Do not endanger the traffic in any way.

                            Test drive:

                            1. Pulling away from stationary.
                            - Pull away twice forwards in driving mode D up to 2nd gear gear.
                            - Pull away twice backwards.

                            2. Drive in every gear also in reverse gear.
                            - Gear lever in tip gate.
                            - Drive in every gear for at least 3 seconds.

                            3. Drive alternately in 3rd, 5th or 7th gear and in 4th or 6th gear.
                            - Gear lever in tip gate.
                            - Rev range 2000 - 4500 rpm.
                            - one minute in the 3. 5th or 7th gear and one minute in 4th or 6th gear
                            - Repeat twice.

                            Drive with different accelerator pedal positions. The control unit must recognise for a short
                            moment the value for full acceleration. It is not necessary to reach the top speed.

                            4. Finally, check the shifting of the gearbox.
                            - Drive in every gear in driving mode D, also in reverse gear.
                            - If negative repeat point 3.

                            Note:

                            Check adaptations in measured value blocks 180_1 and 200_1. (my note: may be not the same numbers in your case, since numbers block it's depend on software version of DSG 7)
                            The number should be at least 3 per clutch.

                            If the test drive cannot be performed in the recommended way or for necessary length, the
                            still open fast adaptations are automatically and unnoticeably performed in the subsequent
                            driving cycles.
                            "

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Digitalic View Post
                              Can you guys tell me which one of these is the software version and what the latest software version is, I think my dealership are just resetting it and not actually updating anything.
                              Hi Mate,

                              TPI 2021116/4 is the Technical Product Information for the revised software. Makes the car much more drivable.
                              MY09 118TSI - SOLD

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